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MR4Y
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-32 channels
-Motorized faders.(Just to facilitate automation. nothing to do with scene recalls)
-Motorized pots.(same as above)
-Virtual routing matrix, as you have on huge analog boards.
-Dedicated VU meters at least for the master out.
-External Power Supply, with option to plug a redundant one as well.
-Standalone recording by plugging a external hard drive into it.
-8 auxes that can be either stereo or mono.
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Dale Christenson wrote:Oh yes, and BALANCED XLR outputs for the aux sends, not pseudo balanced. What does that even mean? If TRS, then they balanced. People have snakes. And snakes rarely have 1/4". At least semi-pro and up don't.


Dale -

The Aux outputs aren't on XLR connectors, but they ARE balanced. Nothing "pseudo" about them. Read the article on my web page if you think that the connector distinguishes whether an output is balanced or not. You're confusing symmetrical outputs with balanced outputs, but the two are not the same, and some symmetrical balancing topologies are actually not as accurately balanced as those using the scheme that PreSonus uses.

Also, there are plenty of snakes that have a mixture of XLR and TRS connectors. What there aren't plenty of ((yet) are snakes that have enough 1/4" connectors to accommodate the suddenly exploding number of sends going to the stage due to bands moving to in-ear monitors, and in stereo to boot. The snake industry has to decide whether or not to play catch-up with the budget console industry. In the mean time, the connector and soldering iron industry is doing as well as ever.
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Dave Chitty wrote:Better interface options beyond FireWire are at the top of my list. More and better options for remote control.


PreSonus is an active member of a developer's alliance that's looking into alternate I/O connections that will work very much like computer networking but you won't see any of that at NAMM this year. They're always working on the StudioLive remote, so I suspect that there will be an improvement or two that you might find better depending on what "better" means to you. For me, better would be simpler. For you it might mean something different.
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MikeRivers wrote:
Dave Chitty wrote:Better interface options beyond FireWire are at the top of my list. More and better options for remote control.


PreSonus is an active member of a developer's alliance that's looking into alternate I/O connections that will work very much like computer networking but you won't see any of that at NAMM this year. They're always working on the StudioLive remote, so I suspect that there will be an improvement or two that you might find better depending on what "better" means to you. For me, better would be simpler. For you it might mean something different.


Are you talking about AVB?

Also I was talking about Android as far as remote control goes. I realize the huge range of hardware makes it more difficult to develop, as well as it being a different environment. But I was thinking you could pick the top 3 or 4 Android tablets and get something going for those. (this would include the Motorola Xoom of course!) Anything smaller than a 10' screen would be a pain to work on anyway.

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Dave Chitty wrote:
Are you talking about AVB?


I don't know. I can't remember the name of this group or if it has an acronym, and I can't find the press release in my mail. I delete those things after a while.


Also I was talking about Android as far as remote control goes.


Ah, more choices of platform, not (necessarily) more functions. The whole portable device industry hasn't sorted that out yet and I suspect that some platforms will go away befire there's any consolidation of software development. At CES I talked ot any number of product developers just waiting for someone to develop an app for something , , , anything. Apparently there's little enough in common between the portable device platforms that you pretty much have to write the app all over again for each one. But I've only heard that second or third hand.
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MikeRivers wrote:

I don't know. I can't remember the name of this group or if it has an acronym, and I can't find the press release in my mail. I delete those things after a while.


The "AVnu Alliance" if I'm not mistaken. The AVB standard will be quite a revolution when it's ready for prime time.
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We will be buying a board soon, a Presonus if they come out with one that has what I want and need on it.

1. MOVING FADERS !!!!!!!!
2. 8 BUSS
3. 32 Channels or more

Most everything else I can live with as is now !

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sbushman18
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Since two 16s can become a 32 and there is a 12 and 24 channel board I am betting the 32 will be skipped over and we'll see a 48 channel board.

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That will be fine too, as long as the other needed additions are made.

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How about 2 sets of motorized faders, 1 for your mix & 1 for all your sends, graphics(32 faders= 32 bands + Gain) , mix & matrix outs ect. which means your mix faders are always there in front of you doing the mix. possibly 2 layers, giving 64 channels

A nice sized touch screen for acces to effects and whatever menus are required.

a complete channel strip with every knob required for the strip (like the Fat channel, not half N half like most the high end stuff)

wireless hookup the the ipad




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People just don't understand the STUDIOLIVE DOESN'T NEED MOTORIZED FADERS!!!!!

The meter bridge changes to the new settings. Instead of adjusting the monitor mix with faders, you use the dials. Instead of the faders moving as you change between Aux mixes, the LED's change but the faders don't.

You are never sitting a layer or two from the main mix. In you are working on an aux mix and you need to bring up a guitar solo, you don't have to hop back to the main mix layer, you just grab the lead guitar fader which is ALWAYS the lead guitar fader, no matter where you are.


Walk into a music store today, with $3000 and tell me what you walk out with, a StudioLive 24.4.w or an X32.

Tell me how you do.
Proklaim
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People just don't understand the STUDIOLIVE DOESN'T NEED MOTORIZED FADERS!!!!!



Well, that is really according to how you use your board, whether or not you need motorized faders. The way we need to use ours, we need motorized faders, you may not, but we do. We run a Share-a-thon for a radio station. We have live singers, and then switch between announcers and the singers. Several different singers will come up and switch out, and all this is live on radio. We need the faders to go back to where they should be and not have to take the time to manually place them with the meter bridge lights showing where they should be. It takes too long to move the faders. We save a scene for each group, with eq, mix and all, then just drag and drop the file to load it when they are up. Then, if you make any changes to the fader level, it can sometimes cause a drastic volume level if the fader is not close to where it should be. So you can see in our instance we could use moving faders. I have a console with moving faders in the studio and it is just much nicer having them, as not to have them. So it would be nice to have the option. Some people do not need them, but some do. Thanks

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robare99
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LS9-32



Gotta pay to play.


It's like complaining that my corolla has no chance of winning the Grand Prix this year, and being upset with Toyota that it won't. It sounds like the StudioLive just isn't the tool for you...



My hammer is also a piss poor soldering iron, but it's not the hammers fault.

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Proklaim
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LS9-32



Gotta pay to play.


It's like complaining that my corolla has no chance of winning the Grand Prix this year, and being upset with Toyota that it won't. It sounds like the StudioLive just isn't the tool for you...


In it's current form it may not be the tool for me, but I have looked at the LS9, and it is too old of a design now to sink that much money in. Presonus has the cutting edge tech that I am looking for, all they need to do now is go a little further and add a few more pro options to it. Of coarse it will cost more,that is to be expected, and I am wiling to pay that extra for it. I am not upset with Presonus at all, just the opposite really, I like their product, just would love it if it had a few more things on it that I need, and several other people too. If they do not add moving faders to it soon, then I will be forced to go with another product. What that will be I do not know yet. Presonus could have the whole market in an uproar if they came out with a 32 with a few more additions to what they have now. It would be a big hit, lots of people are asking for things to be added, it will be interesting to see how well they listen. Thanks for the replies.

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robare99
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Ahhhhh ok.


Totally get where you are coming from now!!


 
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