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devonmyles
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I run both Studio One 2.6.2 and Cubase 7.5.
I like the stream line work flow of ST1 over Cubase,
But for me the Notation view/editing of Cubase, means I tend to do
Larger Orchestrations in Cubase. Also I love the Chord track, very useful.

MIDI is more in depth in Cubase, but I can get by in ST1 quite happily.
In short if/when ST1 incorporates notation editing, I will more than likely just use ST1.
I can't get on with rewire and Notion 4, although Notion 4 is excellent.
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devonmyles wrote:I run both Studio One 2.6.2 and Cubase 7.5.
I like the stream line work flow of ST1 over Cubase,
But for me the Notation view/editing of Cubase, means I tend to do
Larger Orchestrations in Cubase. Also I love the Chord track, very useful.

MIDI is more in depth in Cubase, but I can get by in ST1 quite happily.
In short if/when ST1 incorporates notation editing, I will more than likely just use ST1.
I can't get on with rewire and Notion 4, although Notion 4 is excellent.


It sounds like you don't use the VST expression functionality at all.

I suppose this is typical of these DAW vs DAW discussions. For real meaningful understanding one has to look what the user actually is familiar with .... else we're not really discussing strengths and weaknesses in any depth?

For example, on the Cubase forum, there are users who want the scoring to be even better, possibly even more elegant and sophisticated, but not as a separate program - which has been the route Presonus and Avid took.

For some, simplicity is actually more desired than the sophisticated, and for others the power editing options are key.

Me - I like to have it all - so it made sense to own more than 1 DAW.

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C.LYDE wrote:
devonmyles wrote:I run both Studio One 2.6.2 and Cubase 7.5.
I like the stream line work flow of ST1 over Cubase,
But for me the Notation view/editing of Cubase, means I tend to do
Larger Orchestrations in Cubase. Also I love the Chord track, very useful.

MIDI is more in depth in Cubase, but I can get by in ST1 quite happily.
In short if/when ST1 incorporates notation editing, I will more than likely just use ST1.
I can't get on with rewire and Notion 4, although Notion 4 is excellent.


It sounds like you don't use the VST expression functionality at all.
Me - I like to have it all - so it made sense to own more than 1 DAW.


Not sure how you came to that conclusion from my above post....Lol....
But hey,, As it happens I have recently been getting into expression maps.
I have also just downloaded the Symphobia 1/2 maps from the Steinberg site,
And it is something else (expression maps) that I have started to like regarding Cubase.

Actually I do agree with the points in your post,
Both the Daws have excellent strengths.


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S1 2.6.2 and Cubase 7.5.20 here. Im happy

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shanabit wrote:S1 2.6.2 and Cubase 7.5.20 here. Im happy


same here as well. however I like S1 better: everything S1 can do, it does it better or faster than Cubase. The drawback is that Cubase can do many more things...

I really hope v3 could make me sell my Cubase copy

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dr4kan wrote:
shanabit wrote:S1 2.6.2 and Cubase 7.5.20 here. Im happy


same here as well. however I like S1 better: everything S1 can do, it does it better or faster than Cubase. The drawback is that Cubase can do many more things...

I really hope v3 could make me sell my Cubase copy



This has not been my experience.

I choose use S1 primarily for laptop work, because there's no dongle to be bothered with. As long as its me and guitar or something audio only (loop etc) then S1 is nice and straight-fwd to a point...-then once the composition requires working with anything MIDI related, I find I have to export Cubase to when getting into serious editing and arranging.

I have a similar workflow with Ableton Live... sketch out the idea in Live9 and then export for the heavy lifting within Cubase.

What I find ironic is that once users start requesting more & more features - all these DAWs go the same way. I suspect that over the next few years S1 will follow user demands...
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C.LYDE wrote:
dr4kan wrote:
shanabit wrote:S1 2.6.2 and Cubase 7.5.20 here. Im happy


same here as well. however I like S1 better: everything S1 can do, it does it better or faster than Cubase. The drawback is that Cubase can do many more things...

I really hope v3 could make me sell my Cubase copy



This has not been my experience.

I choose use S1 primarily for laptop work, because there's no dongle to be bothered with. As long as its me and guitar or something audio only (loop etc) then S1 is nice and straight-fwd to a point...-then once the composition requires working with anything MIDI related, I find I have to export Cubase to when getting into serious editing and arranging.

I have a similar workflow with Ableton Live... sketch out the idea in Live9 and then export for the heavy lifting within Cubase.

What I find ironic is that once users start requesting more & more features - all these DAWs go the same way. I suspect that over the next few years S1 will follow user demands...
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Well naturally it depends on the way we use the software, genre of our music, etc...

Anyway workflow in Cubase is not good to me. One example.
Scenario: you have 70 audio tracks, both mono and stereo and you want to send them to a mixer engineer. Now, you want to batch-export them (Stems in S1 language) preserving mono track. In Cubase this is a big problem. By default it converts all mono tracks to stereo when you export them batch. So how to do that? The "official" procedure to preserve mono tracks in Cubase is:
- create a mono output (not bus)
- route all mono tracks to that output
- perform the batch-export
Now it could seem quite easy, HOWEVER, there's no way to select all mono tracks in your project (even the logical editor cannot do this). It means that if you have 50 mono tracks mixed with other stereo tracks you have to select them one by one...
In S1? There's one check box "preserve mono tracks"...
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