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capoxinifrobam
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I hope that the Presonus is considering a new model for StudioLive.
32 channel recording, 32 channel mixing in the mixer.
It would be wonderful for those who work with sound events, as well as for major recording studios.
I have the 24 channel model, which is great. But I still need more channels in some events.
I have some ideas for the new model.
Tip 1 - Button "flat" for the equalizer channel mixer.
Tip 2 - Button "Send Copy"to copy the send levels from one to another aux.
Does anyone have any more ideas? I hope so!
See you soon!
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capoxinifrobam
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Just to clarify ...

I posted this thread simply because I loved the StudioLive 24.4.2.

And I would love to work with a version of this mixer with 32 channels.

I know that the Presonus has already brought us much joy and made our work much simpler.

Everything has its time.

But a model with 32 channels would be great!

I hope the Presonus consider the idea.

And this may happen soon.

Thanks!
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Jan-Arend Blok
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What about two SL 16.4.2 linked, but instead of having 6 auxes now, the possibillty of having 12?
6 auxes for a 32 channel mixer would not be enough.
Then you get a mixer with 32 channels, 12 auxes, 8 subgroups and 4 FX auxes, and this configuration would fit perfectly in de line of the 16.4.2 and the 24.4.2.
This would require a software-update I think, but why not?
In this way, you could also still be using the two 16.4.2 mixers seperately.
And it requires no new design for one big mixer.
Do it, Presonus!!!!!!!

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If I could buy another 16.4.2 and get 12 auxes, I would buy another one even sooner. One cased up for the road, one in the studio but could go on the road if I need more than 16 channels. Wow that would be great.

I'm guessing there's DSP or FireWire limitations which keep us from using auxes on both boards. Board 1 sums a buss, and board 2 sums a buss and adds in board 1 from FireWire.
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I Would first suggest a new 24 !!
with more connections...
Clock in and out, (and it could sold the loosing firewire issue if we could externally clock it) !!
empty slot for future evolution option card....(Ethernet, adat, or whatever that can connect to a computer if firewire disappear on laptop in 10 years.
But before all, A SL with a very strong firmware, that would allow me to mix a show without any issues suspicions...

...... for a 32, i am afraid that this mixer would start to be much big and heavy for what it does.......
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One problem: you cannot link a 16.4.2 to a 24.4.2.
And for 32 channel recording you'll need two 16.4.2 mixers, two 24.4.2's will not work for recording.
That's why I suggested two 16.4.2's, but with 12 instead of 6 auxes.

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There are rumors about a major firmware update for the SL16 that Presonus has in the skunkworks. It might provide answers to some of these burning questions.

I would personally love a 32x8 (minimum) channel version but would settle for two 16s that link up a little differently. I understand about the firewire limitations but maybe an option to configure your own in one of a few ways could be of help. Such as each board having it's own subs instead of summing them all to the four of the primary mixer. Allowing us to have the ability to use all twelve auxes. That kind of flexibility would make these the ultimate boards for whatever you need.

I'm not as concerned about firewire disappearing anytime too soon but I do agree that a card slot would be incredibly beneficial and would provide a substantial increase in routing capabilities. Heck, I'd be willing to send mine back to have it modded for such a thing.
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Two SL 16 is good ... but that's not what I mean.

The 24 channel version is more complete.

Imagine a 32-channel with the same features as the 24 channel has.

And even more complete ... Presonus to add the details discussed by us and incorporate new ideas into the mixer.

It would be very interesting.

Thanks!
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Believe me, I understand what you're saying. I've actually said it on occasion. I agree with many of your sentiments.

Not all of them but enough.
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Jan-Arend Blok wrote:What about two SL 16.4.2 linked, but instead of having 6 auxes now, the possibillty of having 12?
6 auxes for a 32 channel mixer would not be enough.
Then you get a mixer with 32 channels, 12 auxes, 8 subgroups and 4 FX auxes, and this configuration would fit perfectly in de line of the 16.4.2 and the 24.4.2.
This would require a software-update I think, but why not?
In this way, you could also still be using the two 16.4.2 mixers seperately.
And it requires no new design for one big mixer.
Do it, Presonus!!!!!!!



I don't think that would be possible. I asked it to Rick long time ago. There is a data stream flow in the firewire daisy chain that doesn't allow the 12 aux feature with two SL 16.4.2

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  • 2x sample rate (96 kHz) capability

  • A vertical meter bridge so I don't have to stand over the mixer to see it. Maybe even a meter bridge that doesn't double as indicators for controls but rather always displays channel input and bus output levels.

  • Optional I/O cards - ADAT, AES/EBU. MADI, AES50

  • MIDI, HUI, MCU automation with moving faders

  • Adjustable channel delay, including outputs

  • Mic/Line switches (so cables could be connected to both inputs)

  • Real channel linking (faders)

  • Mute groups, or at minimum, a "break" mode with everything muted except a stereo playback input and, optionally, one main channel for an announce mic.

  • Gain trims stored with scenes (yeah, yeah, I know it's an analog gain stage with a pot, but from the size of the steps, I still think it's digitally controlled
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    Like a few others mentioned, expansion card capability would be great. I'd like a 96k sample rate but I have a feeling it would significantly increase the cost, most of the comparable consoles from Yamaha, Tascam, and others that do 96k jump in price. It's not the only factor, but I'm sure it attributes to the reason they started with 48k.

    Also, a frequency sidechain on the compressor for de-essing would be cool.
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    My dream StudioLive (more live)

    32 Channels

    8 VCA (DCA) groups

    12 AUX

    2 x Dynamics in the fat channel

    4 on board effects

    Larger angled LCD that gives channel data similar to when connected to a computer.

    Motorized faders

    Angled meter section

    Better headphone amplIfication with connector on top (flightcase)

    Mute groups



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    Hovgard wrote:Motorized faders



    Why moterized faders ? If only for recall I would say yes. For channel, aux en sub layers: no way ! You would lose the overview in a pile of layers at expense of rapid intevention.

    At first I thought the Studiolive concept was weird but now I see more and more the benfits of it. But I'm still considering buying a 24.4.2 because of all the software problems I read on this forum. And 4 subgroups is not enough for me.

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