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For the rest of ur who DON'T have iPad... How about a similar program, available as a download for laptops? I am setting up my non-MAC laptop to do remote VSL, and the new app is MUCH MUCH more practical than the VSL program.
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trilogymk wrote:For the rest of ur who DON'T have iPad... How about a similar program, available as a download for laptops? I am setting up my non-MAC laptop to do remote VSL, and the new app is MUCH MUCH more practical than the VSL program.


You still need VSL... the iPad app connects to VSL which connects to the StudioLive... the iPad app does not communicate directly to the SL-Mixers.

Meaning... you will still need a laptop or computer connected to the SL running VSL.

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Yes, I understand that. What I meant was.. I wish there was a download available from presonus for my laptop, so i could do a remote that looks like the new app, instead of just seeing the normal VSL on the laptop screen
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He means that trying to use vsl through a desktop sharing program is way less slick than this. A program that controlled vsl like this from a laptop would be amazing and would attract loads of new customers I would think. There are certainly more people with laptops lying around than ipads.

Trilogymk - you beat me to it

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Tony. Thats exactly what I meant. I love the way that ipad app looks. My wish: Presonus offers the app as a download for laptop users. Anyone who requests it, gets an email with a link to download to a laptop. A windows version or Mac version could be offferd.

Thats one thing that bugs me about Presonus. They seem to be Pro Mac. Macs are nice, but alot of people use Windows
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trilogymk wrote:Yes, I understand that. What I meant was.. I wish there was a download available from presonus for my laptop, so i could do a remote that looks like the new app, instead of just seeing the normal VSL on the laptop screen


get the ipad sdk 3.2 or up it lets you have a fake ipad on your pc/mac

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wow, really?? how and where can I get that? and do you think It would accept ipad apps??

email me, if you can

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get the ipad sdk 3.2 or up it lets you have a fake ipad on your pc/mac


lol. Funny you should mention that; Just finished downloading. Haven't had a chance to mess with it, though.



wow, really?? how and where can I get that? and do you think It would accept ipad apps??


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I was looking at sites. It looks like its for mac. and it also says its $99
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trilogymk wrote:For the rest of ur who DON'T have iPad... How about a similar program, available as a download for laptops? I am setting up my non-MAC laptop to do remote VSL, and the new app is MUCH MUCH more practical than the VSL program.


iPad's are the 'Windows' of the Tablet world with the majority of the market. At least they were in 2010 and are set to be again in 2011. It definitely makes sense to prioritise development on it. In fact, hasn't the Android tablet software just been released? I'm glad Presonus didn't wait for Android or we would have nothing still. Also, are there any Android tablets on the market with a 10" screen? The Galaxy tablet is half the size of iPad. Without having used the Remote App I would predict that the Galaxy tablet would be too small.

I AM hearing you about the Remote App being slicker than VSL. I am very thankful for VSL, but agree that the GUI could have been nicer - more like the Remote App - it looks NICE!
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hsfinlayson wrote:
trilogymk wrote:For the rest of ur who DON'T have iPad... How about a similar program, available as a download for laptops? I am setting up my non-MAC laptop to do remote VSL, and the new app is MUCH MUCH more practical than the VSL program.




I know I'm going to start a firestorm with this comment but this is reality.
I was at NAMM this week I spent 2.5 days wandering around and there were two
things I noticed. I didn't bother to count but I will confidently say that 95% of all
computers that were being used (demoing software/interfaces) were OSX.
There were countless iPads and iPad apps. Note not Samsung Galaxy's or the like
but iPads. Obviously the music industry is using primarily macs not windows machines.
Just like windows has dominated the business community.
Now being a business owner myself I understand if your into making a profit,(and what business isn't)
then target your product to the equipment your customer base is using. From what I observed at NAMM.
I would be putting my resources in developing software/hardware that works with OSX first, then develop for windows.
If I was developing business software I would be developing it for windows first.
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OK, I understand that. But the fact remains that not all of ur can just go out and buy new comps whenever we want. I have a small business, and I have PC. For now, I am stuck with that. All I wanted to know is .. would it have been so hard for Presonus to come out with downloads for both formats? I dont know how much effort it takes to create the programs, but it would be nice for us PC users to get the same things as MAC users.

My dream announcement from Presonus:

"New download available!! NEW VSL upgrade, with better control of auxes and effects, AND, great new application for remotely controlling VSL. Downloads available for all formats. "

And yes, the new app looks amazing. I wish they would make a VSL upgrade , so VSL looks and does what the new iPad app does.

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As a software engineer myself, yes... it would have been nearly twice the effort (or more) to release it to a windows or android tablet platform simultaneously. And then which android tablet? At what screen resolution? That's always been the issue with PC (or any non-mac platforms) they're not standardized! It's very hard to accomodate for all the options that consumers have. That's why Windows historically has been more unstable than OS X because of all the different hardware/drivers that Windows has to account for. Android is still feeling the tablet scene out but the iPad is a singular device that is widely adopted with standardized hardware and operating system. Presonus had to start somewhere and the iPad/Mac OS X is clearly where it is at for music production in 2010-2011 as evidenced by all the reports from the NAMM floor of iPad this and iPhone that.

As a mac user for 15+ years your sentiment is pretty funny to me though Don't get me wrong, I'm sympathetic but only because I've been on the other end of it for so long.

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ok, I think I understand. But what about the other part? Instead of all the effort in making an APP specifically for Ipad users, why not make a VSL upgrade? I know now that there are more mac users in the music biz, but why an APP thats so specific? only ipad owners can use it. what about people who use a mac laptop as the remote? yes, Ipads are very cool and would be very good for remote. But they are still fairly new, and most people do not own one.
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I think they will continue to enhance VSL for everyone. And keep in mind you still have to run VSL on a laptop hooked to your mixer for the iPad app to work. The iPad app is really just a fancy dedicated VNC of sorts into your computer to control VSL. Since they have an API for VSL, albeit a closed one, I'd expect more remote apps to show up in the future.

The iPad doesn't replace VSL or the need for a laptop or other computer hooked to your mixer. The interesting thing that a lot of us are talking about though is to maybe run a headless (no monitor attached) mac mini (or PC) and just use the iPad as the only screen since it really does for the most part have parity with VSL.
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