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clblnsfc
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End MINUS Analyz List for "Studio 1"

-Step input on key editor (as Cubase)
-Audio Proccessing (as Cubase)
-Midi Functions
-Midi insert fx( arpeggiator,Pitcher,...)
-Folder Track?
-Zooming bar?
-Edit-info bar? (No Events inspector)
-VariAudio?
-Developed Audio Editor?
-Riff mach (as same FL studio Riff mach) for S1s "Key Editor"
-Mouse tools (havent button for Timewarp,Audiowarp)
-Score Editor ??? (I need thisone becuz I'm a Music teachers in the school)
-Surround Mix or Export ?
-Fadein-Fadeout Editor for large editing for Events?
-Min 4 osc Synthesizer?


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and Addition

Mr. Jonathan What is your alternatives for those?

-"Channel settings" parameters panel (in FL studio) or exactly "Midi inserts" (in Cubase5)
-VariAudio (in c5) or NewTone (in FLs)
-Riff Mach (in FLs) and Automotic Chord Notation (in FLs Pianoroll submenu)

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Please You look youtube for "Channel settings" in FL studio as same Midi inserts in Cubase

Exm: Very Very simple 1Osc (+) "Channel settings panel parameters" = HUGE Synthesizer!
Exm: 3xOsc (+) Channel Settings panel = Waldorf - Largo

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clblnsfc wrote:and Addition

Mr. Jonathan What is your alternatives for those?

-"Channel settings" parameters panel (in FL studio) or exactly "Midi inserts" (in Cubase5)
-VariAudio (in c5) or NewTone (in FLs)
-Riff Mach (in FLs) and Automotic Chord Notation (in FLs Pianoroll submenu)


We don't need that crap....

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EXACTLY themuzic, well said. Thats why im leaving Cubase, i don't need vari audio, if i wanted to alter pitch id buy melodyne, its far superior, if i want synths i'll buy vst synths, there are hundreds of them. Presonus please do not waste
When I think of the things that i would like to see from Cubase in S1 all of them are tools, not musical instruments or plugins. I miss the audio statistics tool, very good for analyzing my input level. I miss the Arranger Track and Folder tracks. I miss a decent metering system. But above all I miss the hardware integration that I had with my gear. At the moment I can't do half the things that I could with my Tascam FW1884, in Cubase I could leave the mouse and do so much directly with my FW1884 control surface. Same with my Korg Nanopad. Here's hoping hardware updates are on the Presonus list for v2.
Also credit where it is due, the Cubase MIDI editing side is clearly better than S1, there are just so many more useful tools, but i'm sure the Presonus guys know this. The question is can Presonus copy all these tools but make it more intuitive and easier to use for the end user. VST Expression Maps, great idea, lousy implementation.
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CubaseUser wrote:EXACTLY themuzic, well said. Thats why im leaving Cubase, i don't need vari audio, if i wanted to alter pitch id buy melodyne, its far superior, if i want synths i'll buy vst synths, there are hundreds of them. Presonus please do not waste
When I think of the things that i would like to see from Cubase in S1 all of them are tools, not musical instruments or plugins. I miss the audio statistics tool, very good for analyzing my input level. I miss the Arranger Track and Folder tracks. I miss a decent metering system. But above all I miss the hardware integration that I had with my gear. At the moment I can't do half the things that I could with my Tascam FW1884, in Cubase I could leave the mouse and do so much directly with my FW1884 control surface. Same with my Korg Nanopad. Here's hoping hardware updates are on the Presonus list for v2.
Also credit where it is due, the Cubase MIDI editing side is clearly better than S1, there are just so many more useful tools, but i'm sure the Presonus guys know this. The question is can Presonus copy all these tools but make it more intuitive and easier to use for the end user. VST Expression Maps, great idea, lousy implementation.


Oh you are so right on all points. An the thing to remember is that Studio One is still a 1.xxx version, being built from the ground up. To think that most of the editing tool you are talking about aren't already in some kind of planning stage, is absurd! And you know I'm 1000% with you on the whole controller issue

Look at all we have now after 8 updates. Thanx for seeing the truth behind the foolishness....lol

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Hey, is there midi step input? This is pretty basic. I like S1 a fair amount, but am missing step input. Also, is there a way to linearly increase tempo? Like with a line, so you don't have to manually enter each change (choppy way of slowly increasing tempo). thx for your time--
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Cool74 wrote:Hey, is there midi step input? This is pretty basic. I like S1 a fair amount, but am missing step input. Also, is there a way to linearly increase tempo? Like with a line, so you don't have to manually enter each change (choppy way of slowly increasing tempo). thx for your time--


No on both questions unfortunately. But they are both on the Feature Request for version 2. Now there could be someone with workarounds for one (if not both) of these but we'll have to see.

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Cool74 wrote: Also, is there a way to linearly increase tempo? Like with a line, so you don't have to manually enter each change (choppy way of slowly increasing tempo). thx for your time--


This might help as a workaround for now.
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I agree with most of the posts. I still use Cubase 6 for most projects though.
I don't do a lot of "DAW" type stuff. I do sessions with real instruments and vocals and do midi recording and editing with external instruments.
For these purposes I find Cubase a better tool. However, if a client calls and wants a bumper or jingle and needs it "today" then I fire up Studio One Artist and
I can put together something great and fast.
I think a better comparison would be Logic vs Live vs Studio One, or Cubase/Nuendo vs Pro Tools.
Between Live, Logic and Studio One, Studio One is hands down the easiest and most intuitive and gets the job done.
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This is an old thread. The release of Version 2 renders most of this debate obsolete.
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BoSchafers wrote:This is an old thread. The release of Version 2 renders most of this debate obsolete.


True but his points at the end of his post are things I agree with overall.

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Yes its old but as far as im aware midi step input isnt in v2 , after using it in cubase it really is an easy way of getting notes played in exactly to the grid
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CubaseUser wrote:Yes its old but as far as im aware midi step input isnt in v2 , after using it in cubase it really is an easy way of getting notes played in exactly to the grid


This is a feature I'd like to see as well. Maybe we should scoot over to the FR area...... Beat ya there...lol

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The race is on , ill get my slippers
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A little of topic, but in Studio One 2 I noticed that when you record midi (and I'm a good player) the playback seems faster (no input quantize) compared to other daws. Also when I do quantize it becomes more rigid, again compared to other daws..... strange.
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