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ricklake
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I need a bit of help. We have a mic on our bass kick drum, and I can't seem to get the setting through the board right. We have tried different mics with no luck. I am using the templates from the board, but even after fine tuning the settings, there isn't a deep bass sound , like a kick should have. Its more of an echo/resonating sound. Maybe I am missing something?
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What kind of mic? Where exactly is it placed? What kind of drums? What room?
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Bass drum mics are somewhat of a specialized animal, due to the frequency range of the instrument. It's possible that, even with correct placement, the wrong mic (a vocal mic, for instance) can sound weak. If you'll fill us in on the questions above, we can point you in the right way (or is that the Wright way?). lol

You could also just google "bass drum mic" and you'll see some good ones, like the AKG D112 and the Shure Beta 52A. There's a lot of good mics for the purpose, but the wrong ones will give you less than what the drum can produce.
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The 2 mics that we have tried are an AKG d112 and an Audix d6. We have tried them right in front of the hole and also inside the kick drum in various places. This is seems to be happening. The frequency seems to be really low. It clips if I put the trim much more than 1/3. The drums require way more volume than the other instruments, just to be able to hear the bass kick through the speakers. Once we have it where we can hear it, we have to change all the setting to get rid of the resonation. It really has no bassy sound either. I am going to try it through a powered board to see if it makes a difference.
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Both of the mics you have tried are reasonable choices. I use the D6 myself. It generally needs very little, if any EQ. Perhaps this is more of a speaker/amp question. Can you get the sound you want when you play pre-recorded music with that sound through your speakers? It can take a *huge* amount of power to deliver a really tight kick tone depending on the room size, etc.

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ricklake
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There must be something else going on here because it doesn't seem to get the signal it should have. There is no problem with recorded music and the speakers are Mackie 650sl powered, so that shouldn't be the issue either. I'll keep trying.Thx
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ricklake wrote:There must be something else going on here because it doesn't seem to get the signal it should have. There is no problem with recorded music and the speakers are Mackie 650sl powered, so that shouldn't be the issue either. I'll keep trying.Thx


No subs? That'll make getting a good kick sound very difficult. Especially if there is a high pass set on the speakers somewhere
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sjc193 wrote:
ricklake wrote:There must be something else going on here because it doesn't seem to get the signal it should have. There is no problem with recorded music and the speakers are Mackie 650sl powered, so that shouldn't be the issue either. I'll keep trying.Thx


No subs? That'll make getting a good kick sound very difficult. Especially if there is a high pass set on the speakers somewhere


I concur, which will make the floor toms sound thin too. Although many disagree, floor toms often have lower tones than even the kick drum. If This isn't the issue, I think you have to start back at swapping mic cables, snake channels, whatever you can to eliminate path issues.
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