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craig bartlett
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I have resolved most of the issues I expressed in my recent posting ("Loss of Sound"), but one remains: When I check the "Que Mix" button to overdub a track with zero latency, I lose all sound through my headphones and no sounds are recorded.

While trying various options, I found that I could overdub a track -- without latency -- by simply NOT checking "Que Mix" or the Z for zero latency.

This makes no sense to me. In the past, I needed to click those buttons to avoid latency, but now I don't (and if I do I lose sound). My current path to a successful recording is this

Mic in input 3, input on micline 3, output set to micline 3, input 2 picks up the sound (with no representation of mic 3). Que Mix and Zero Latency (Z) are "unchecked.

"MostWest" kindly suggested that I needed to move Presonus back to my C Drive (from my D Drive) to resolve the problems I described earlier, but now I don't know what to do. Please forgive the back-to-back postings, but I'd like to figure this out.
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What interface are you using? Z latency is only for Presonus interfaces.
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Mic in input 3, input on micline 3, output set to micline 3


S1 Free only allows 2 inputs, how are you getting 3?
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craig bartlett
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Lmike:

Thanks for responding to my question. First of all, I have never understood the idea of Studio One Free. I purchased a unit with 8 inputs with the understanding that all of those channels would be available to me. I then tried to download an MP3 converter, but was told that I couldn't do that with Studio One Free, so I upgraded to v26.2 (for free) so that would work. I paid $500 for the unit, so I'm not entirely sure where the "free" part comes in.

Anyway, the fact remains that if I click Quemix I lose sound in my headphones (yes, I am using a Presonus interface). However, if I direct my input and output to Mic 3 I can avoid problems with latency without clicking Quemix (although Input 3 does not show up on ,my mixing board). This is clearly nonstandard, and not the way my system used to work. Any thoughts?

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craig bartlett wrote:Thanks for responding to my question.

You're welcome.

I'm not entirely sure where the "free" part comes in.

Because you're asking for support in a forum section dedicated to the S1 Free product...

This section of the forums is dedicated to user-based community support for Studio One Free. No technical support is provided by PreSonus for Studio One Free. All questions concerning Studio One Free should be asked here, and the answers will be entirely provided by the user community


Register your product and seek support in the User Support section. http://forumsarchive.presonus.com/forums/show/36.page

Hope that helps.

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craig bartlett wrote:Lmike:

Thanks for responding to my question. First of all, I have never understood the idea of Studio One Free. I purchased a unit with 8 inputs with the understanding that all of those channels would be available to me. I then tried to download an MP3 converter, but was told that I couldn't do that with Studio One Free, so I upgraded to v26.2 (for free) so that would work. I paid $500 for the unit, so I'm not entirely sure where the "free" part comes in.

Anyway, the fact remains that if I click Quemix I lose sound in my headphones (yes, I am using a Presonus interface). However, if I direct my input and output to Mic 3 I can avoid problems with latency without clicking Quemix (although Input 3 does not show up on ,my mixing board). This is clearly nonstandard, and not the way my system used to work. Any thoughts?



I am not understanding what you are trying to do routing wise. If you are having trouble posting in the normal S1 forums, you may need to register your hardware/software. There are limitations in the free version, but I am not sure that is what is causing the problems. If you purchased your interface new, then it comes with S1 Artist, which has more functionality that free does. If you can not find the disc that came with your interface, then you should contact tech support to get the licensing straightened out. One of the main differences between Free and Artist, is the number of simultaneous inputs that can be recorded (Free + 2, Artist = No Limit).

What sound do you lose when you use Cue Mix? Is it all sound, or is it effects that you have on a track. Cue Mix is nothing more than monitoring from the hardware, not the software, so losing effects on a track is expected behavior.

Mic in input 3, input on micline 3, output set to micline 3, input 2 picks up the sound (with no representation of mic 3). Que Mix and Zero Latency (Z) are "unchecked.


This is where you lose me. Forget about moving S1 to the C drive, it has no bearing on this problem. If your system can handle audio processing with a small buffer to avoid latency, then there is no need for Z button. When you overdub with the Z button engaged, you will not hear the previously recorded part on that track, because you are monitoring from the hardware. I rarely if ever use Z Latency Monitoring because I like the flexibility of using effects for tracking, and for this issue with overdubs/punch in recording.

A little more in the way of how your inputs/outputs are configured, system information, etc will help to solve this for you.
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Thanks, Lmike, for getting back to me on my routing issue. I'm pressed for time tonight, will do a little homework, and will get back to you tomorrow. I appreciate your help;.
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LMike:

As you may have guessed, I am new to Studio One and am just trying to figure out how this system works. Your questions have helped to focus those efforts. Here is what I have determined:

1. My system is, indeed, registered as Studio One Artist, as evidenced on my Dashboard, and on the installation CD which invites me to direct any technical questions to a Presonus email address (so perhaps I shouldn’t be wasting your time).

2. On the other hand, my input options for adding tracks only offer tracks 1 and 2. I don’t know why I waIs able to record through a mic set to track 3, but I just determined that I actually recorded through track 1 – right on top of my base track. (This appears to be at odds with the idea that Studio One offers unlimited tracks.)

3. In past attempts, I lost all sound (base track and new track) through the headphones when I clicked Que Mix. Fortunately, I can record without latency through track 1 without Que Mix. I appreciate that you essentially gave me permission to do that.

My path to adding a track is now:
Add track / song setup / Audio I/O / Add input mono 1 / Add output mono 1 / Apply / OK

I’d like to have access to the other 6 tracks, and would appreciate any additional thoughts you might have.
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In the same process you used to add 1 mono track, you add all of the available inputs you have for your interface. The In/Out matrix should be graphed out to show all possiblities, then they need to be configured. Once you have everything configured, and are back in the song, go to file/save as a template. You can then choose to use that template everytime you start a song so you only have to do it once.
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craig bartlett wrote:so perhaps I shouldn’t be wasting your time

I'm a regular user like you so... we're all just here trying to help each other. I have no affiliation with PreSonus at all. Anything I say and do here is just me trying to help.

MWright is a moderator so his advice about how to register and how to get support and similar is more "official". The rest of us are just people who use Studio One and try to help people struggling.
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LMike wrote:
craig bartlett wrote:so perhaps I shouldn’t be wasting your time

I'm a regular user like you so... we're all just here trying to help each other. I have no affiliation with PreSonus at all. Anything I say and do here is just me trying to help.

MWright is a moderator so his advice about how to register and how to get support and similar is more "official". The rest of us are just people who use Studio One and try to help people struggling.


Its never a bother. We have all been helped at one point, and are just paying it forward. One thing to mention, it is helpful to put your system information in your forum sig. It helps to speed assistance along when people know the environment you are working in, and what equipment you have.
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