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JoseDrums
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Dear Presonus staff,
I have found myself stunned by the lack of this one feature(found in Ableton Live) inside studio one. I think it is a must have for every electronic music producer. This feature is of-course the Instrument Rack Macro section. It allows you to control multiple parameters inside vst's all in one knob. It also allows you to put a maximum on the amount of the parameter modified.

For example say I want one knob to control both a filter cuttoff and an oscillator volume. I can drag the parameters into the macro, setup the maximum. And voila. I can automate the macro I created to control both the filter cuttoff and oscillator volume at the same time.

This is crucial for EDM producers especially those who use the Native Instruments FM8 synth. In ableton one can make the volume of say 5 oscillators be controlled by one macro and effectively get a bass line to "talk"

Now some of you may say: "Just use Massive. It comes with a built in macro system"... The problem with this is that Massive only has the 3 oscillators and a very limited way to control them.... Those who use the FM8 would understand.

Also I figured I would rewire Ableton into Studioone, and this totally didn't work because ableton's 3rd party plugins get disabled when in slave mode.... Thus, having no point in using rewire.

Anyways... I beg you Presonus staff.. Can you please! add this to the next update. I am honestly considering going over to ableton just because of this feature...
Thanks a lot for reading.

If you want to further see the importance of this feature: Look at this video where the person shows how to use the macros to create a certain sound:
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Okay.... So I learned how to use ableton over the last couple of days. Besides the macro controls. Everything in S1 beats it by 1000x.... Damn please Presonus add this feature it would make my life and that of hundreds of other producers 100x easier! PLEASE.
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Ableton works really well as a Rewire slave. I'm amazed at how underrated Rewire is.
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While I use Live as a Rewire slave I have to agree, Macro control would be a great addition not just for EDM but as a way of controlling bus effects also and along with saving along with presets.

I will always agree to more control through all great features of other DAW's as long as there is already a method that can be tweaked in Studio One in the form of active controllers and MIDI mapping.
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JoseDrums
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Yeah guys, the reason I complain about rewiring ableton as a slave into S1 is because once I rewire, all 3rd party vsts inside Ableton get disabled :/ It kinda ruins the whole point of using ableton for me because I mostly produce using 3rd party vsts....

Anyways I'm just exporting and importing back and forth for now. Let's just hope Presonus sees this and decides to add this feature. It would certainly bring on a hefty amount of EDM producers to S1.

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Really, 3rd party plug are disabled? I have to try this.......
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FFS, I had no idea!
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JoseDrums
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Yeah. Surely it's not Presonus's fault that Ableton's vsts get disabled when it hosts it as a slave...
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MOD NOTE: I removed your other thread as it was a duplicate of this one.
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JoseDrums wrote:Yeah. Surely it's not Presonus's fault that Ableton's vsts get disabled when it hosts it as a slave...


What is up with that though? I'd like more input on this. I'm looking over at two other forums and see if I can get to the bottom of this.....
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Hehehe... in the vid he's turning up the velocity sensitivity to 100% with the magic words: "FM8 does this thingy where it likes to be very quiet and you just have to turn up as many things as you can"...... Nope, not in this case sir

Great tutorial though if you are in this kind of sound

Back on topic: Don't know if it is a solution, but have you guys thought about Vstforx or Minihost Modular? Both can attach MIDI CC's etc. to multiple automatable parameter. Possibilities are endless especially when using in combination with J's MIDI tools or Cable guys MidiShaper.

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This is why I never used rewire. I have no idea why on earth live as a slave would be of any value. Reason I can see.

I literally wasted time trying to figure out something that I don't use anyways, and have no need for. Now I understand why bitwig could care less about rewire
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Fair enough. I'm using Live Lite and had just assumed that this was a limited feature that would have been resolved with the full edition. That is total crap.
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I fear what I've said has been taken the wrong way.
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It's nothing to do with S1 nor rewire as to why Live disables vst use when slaved - Cakewalk's [abandoned] Project5 (and some other hosts) will allow you to use vsts when slaved...
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