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Any way to know which CPU features Studio One needs/uses?
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justinmeyer
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Hello,

I have a 10 inch tablet which has Windows 8.1 (32 Bit), 2 GB DDR2-RAM and an Intel Atom Z2760 processor.
Studio One can run on it, but when playing "complex melodies" it starts to freeze and it's bad.
Of course that's not Studio One's fault, it's just the CPU which is not that strong.

So, I plan to upgrade to another tablet, for example a tablet which has the Intel Atom Z3775 processor.

Some differences are (Atom Z2760 vs Atom Z3775):
- 2 cores vs 4 cores
- 1,8 GHZ vs. 1,47 GHZ (2,39 GHZ Turbo)
- Hyper-threading: yes vs. Hyper-threading: no
- Virtualization support: no vs yes
- 1 MB L2 cache vs 2 MB L2 cache
- SSE4.1, SSE4, AES, SSE4.2 all no vs yes
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Atom-Z3775-vs-Intel-Atom-Z2760

So the question is from what does Studio One especially benefit?
I know it supports 4 cores, so a quad core makes sense I think.

Sure something like an Intel Core i7 4500U CPU is the best, but it's pretty expensive and maybe not needed at all.

Thanks for any help!
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Audio production programs can be the most CPU intensive software you can buy, if in fact you engage lots of VST. Without the VST, the CPU is only needed for 'housekeeping'. You can of course get a little more grunt if you increase the latency, but that may not be practical.

If you can settle on a minimum standard for your projects, then that may suffice for the current version of S1. Most folks are going to say 'get as much CPU power as you can afford', so this discussion tends to get a little repetitive.

A couple of years ago, a computer store guy said to me 'spend an extra $100 on the CPU, and you can give your system an extra 1-2 years of life'. That worked out to be correct for me anyway. I have a couple of i7 machines, and they are well appreciated.
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justinmeyer
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Hi and thank you for your reply.

Well the problem is that I don't have a real PC but only a tablet PC.
So here there isn't really the chance to upgrade a CPU.
And the expensive and powerful tablets are pretty big (13 inches) which is a bit big for me.
For this reason I'm trying to find something which is more handable (10 inch) yet powerful enough for Studio One.

A question:
An Internet friend of mine has a laptop with Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit, 4 GB DDR2 and an Intel Core i5-3230M,
and he says whatever he makes, the CPU never reaches its limit.

That CPU is a dual core CPU which has 2x 2,6 GHZ and 2x 0,25 MB L2 cache.
The Intel Atom Z3775 has 4x 1,47 GHZ and 4x 0,5 MB L2 cache.

Of course I wouldn't say so it's 5,88 GHZ and 2 MB L2 cache vs. 5,2 GHZ and 0,5 MB L2 cache, but since Studio One uses 4 cores,
I'm really asking myself if the Atom Z3775 could run Studio One at least as well as the Intel i5-3230M.
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Without getting your hands on one and putting it through a decent stress test, you are not going to sort this out.
Also need to take into account that there are a few tweaks that need to be done to the 8.1 OS to make sure it doesn't
limit your CPU potential, so a blind test of a brand new unit may not give you an accurate impression of power.
Unless you can find a blog where someone says 'yay or nay' on this question, you may be the test pilot.

As late as last year, I was still running StudioOne on an 'E7500' PC to test plugins and so forth. Of course it certainly
showed a higher load than a newer processor, but it ran ok. Something to think about there.


Intel Core I7 3770,ASUS P8Z68-V-LE MOTHERBOARD
500G Seagate SATA (projects),500G Seagate SATA (samples),500G Seagate SATA (apps).
Low noise case(Antec Solo). Acer x233h LCD, LG1510S.

RME Multiface x2,RME ADI2, Lucid 2496. Casio Privia PX-3,Behringer BCF2000,BCR2000.
Soundworkshop Series30 console (channels rackmounted in groups of 8 ).
Dynaudio BM15 speakers. Loads of mics and Pres and other junk.

Win8.1 64,Win7 64,StudioOnePro,Soundforge10, CD Arch5,
Reason6.5,Recycle, Waves Plugins, Drumcore 3.0, Korg legacy digital and analogue.
Native Instruments Komplete8,Alicia's Keys,Vintage compressors,Premium tube series.


i74770, Asus Z87-C, Acerx233h, M-Audio delta66,RME ADI2 (home PC).

Rangersam used to be called moopyhog (who died in the revolution).

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Atom processors are a different architechture. Iirc, they are not supported, but i am going from memory so that that for what its worth.
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matthewgorman wrote:Atom processors are a different architechture. Iirc, they are not supported, but i am going from memory so that that for what its worth.


Yes.

It occurred to me some years ago that due to the increasing efficiency of most programs, we would see a divergence of the market into
primarily pro units and primarily consumer units. Back then, you needed a full power system just to keep up with current software. Now, where
internet browsing, email and social media may be the only thing a person does, much of the power of cutting edge processors is ,for the most
part, an unrequired commodity.

Music apps fall into the bracket of 'more power, better experience for the user'

My last i7 PC was $700 to upgrade the CPU,mobo,ram. A decent 2nd hand system at the moment is way less than that, and you can
get great performance from a 3 year old 'i' series system.



Intel Core I7 3770,ASUS P8Z68-V-LE MOTHERBOARD
500G Seagate SATA (projects),500G Seagate SATA (samples),500G Seagate SATA (apps).
Low noise case(Antec Solo). Acer x233h LCD, LG1510S.

RME Multiface x2,RME ADI2, Lucid 2496. Casio Privia PX-3,Behringer BCF2000,BCR2000.
Soundworkshop Series30 console (channels rackmounted in groups of 8 ).
Dynaudio BM15 speakers. Loads of mics and Pres and other junk.

Win8.1 64,Win7 64,StudioOnePro,Soundforge10, CD Arch5,
Reason6.5,Recycle, Waves Plugins, Drumcore 3.0, Korg legacy digital and analogue.
Native Instruments Komplete8,Alicia's Keys,Vintage compressors,Premium tube series.


i74770, Asus Z87-C, Acerx233h, M-Audio delta66,RME ADI2 (home PC).

Rangersam used to be called moopyhog (who died in the revolution).

 
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