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I just picked up the Komplete 9 bundle and have a $25 voucher to use in NI the online store. I was thinking of picking up Alicia's Keys since none of the pianos that come with the bundle really sit well in synth/electro pop styles.

just looking for your opinions. I may pull the trigger this weekend.

thanks.
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Dunno, but she could use me if she likes.
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Not a very useful answer, but I have it as part of K9 ultimate and only checked it out briefly, wasn't too impressed. But then I did NOT try it in the context you're after..
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I do know that user juliab uses them alot and speakes very highly of them. Maybe send her a PM
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On topic, I find NI's pianos horrible imho. I mean, with work you can get them to sound ok but mostly they are clanky and thin.
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Agreed. They sound hard. May be good for cutting through a mix but alone not very usable. Jmo.
I am looking to update to Komplete 9 though. I currently have 5.
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I have the complete opposite thought of this VST as regards the views above. If used with a good compressor and EQ, it is the best sampled piano available, IMO. I have used it for mostly jazz and soul/funk music.

To me, it's just richer sounding and more musical than any of the others I have tried. As I say though, used bare with no FX, it doesn't impress on instant hearing. With a little work, it's still the best after a few years of using it.
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I have Komplete8 and Alicia's Keys.
Alicia's Keys is a 'moody' piano. It really is good for slower pieces with a soft to medium attack.
It's eq as presented is setup for solo piano, and as such you will have to eq it quite a bit to fit a denser mix.

As far as a piano for electro pop, it just won't really cut it. You could really eq it, but the attack just isn't the right type.
You probably want something that offers a harder hammer (harder felt or even a tack style strike).
For electro pop, where you may be maxing out the velocity or using a fixed velocity, a piano like this may
be a waste. A simpler sampled piano with only a few layers of samples may give you a better sound for that
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What I do like is the sympathetic resonance control. Yes, it is pretty jazz oriented.

I think there is 17 or 18 gigs of sounds. Pretty nice.
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Rangersam wrote:I have Komplete8 and Alicia's Keys.
Alicia's Keys is a 'moody' piano. It really is good for slower pieces with a soft to medium attack.
It's eq as presented is setup for solo piano, and as such you will have to eq it quite a bit to fit a denser mix.

As far as a piano for electro pop, it just won't really cut it. You could really eq it, but the attack just isn't the right type.
You probably want something that offers a harder hammer (harder felt or even a tack style strike).
For electro pop, where you may be maxing out the velocity or using a fixed velocity, a piano like this may
be a waste. A simpler sampled piano with only a few layers of samples may give you a better sound for that
style.


You know, electro pop may not be exactly what i meant. I love the sound and mood of the pianos that trent uses with NIN. I'm after something similar. I realize that he messes with some detuning and such to get that sound. I'm looking for something close though. then i can tweak accordingly. I actually have gotten pretty decent results with the Reason pianos for more of the electro style stuff but for the darker downtempo styles i need something else.

thanks for chiming in everybody.


And to Lokeyfly, she could totally use the hell out of me too
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Yeah man. Alicia is stunning and very talented. A home town girl too! Amazing how different from photo to photo she looks. Wow.

I have a question about K9 but I'll post separately. I don't wish to alter this thread, so it can keep right on chugging along.
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She be looking and singing pretty great in the quite excellent Muscle Shoals documentary now playing on Netflix ... not that a serious composer like myself would care about her looks .
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Lokeyfly wrote:Dunno, but she could use me if she likes.

LOLOLOLOLO
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She's married but I firmly believe all such successful woman need a boy toy.
I say that with all do respect.





Anyway, thanks for bringing up overcoat. I did sample some of this set, and I actually have a new look on it. It has a very moody mellow jazz sound which I would never turn down. Very huge library of samples. Whew. .

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