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mikeguitarman
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52 people have viewed my request and only 2 took the time to reply I thought this was a valuable resource that offered help and advice to those who needed it concerning all things S1 . . . im not that impressed to be honest
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stroud college
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Hi Mike and welcome to the forum.

Sorry that you are not impressed with the forum.

I don't know if you realise that questions are answered on this forum by Presonus users and not Presonus staff (although they do come on this forum and sometimes have time to answer).

I think the answers you got were OK. I personally don't post answers unless I have a total understanding of the issue subject. I could try to answer your question, but being a live sound guy the answer might not be right. This would create more confusion.

One thing that would help is to put your system details in the signature at the bottom of the post. So much depends on what operating system you are running. I think that you did not mention if you are on mac or PC (might have missed it).

Please don't be put off by the number of responses. It is a very good resource.
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Music studio:
. 20 x iMac 22" 3.06Ghz 4G RAM, OSX 10.6.3.
. 20 x Faderport, Firestudio Mobile, DT100, Oxygen 25.
. 20 x Studio One Pro 2 , Cubase 6, Logic Pro 9.

Recording Studio:
. 2 x StudioLive 16.4.2 linked.
. iMac 22" 3.06Ghz 4G RAM, OSX 10.6.3.
. Studio One Pro 2 , Cubase 6, Logic Pro 9.
. Recorders: Alesis HD24, Tascam CD-RW900SL
. Compressors: TC Electronic C300 x 2, Behringer MDX2000
. Reverbs: Lexicon MX2000, TC Electronic M350 x 2, Alesis Midiverb4 x 2, Alesis Microverb, Behringer DSP2024
. Graphics: DBX 231 x 2
. Monitors: KRK VXT4, Tannoy Reveal 6D.

Music classroom 1:
. 20 x iMac 22" 3.06Ghz 4G RAM, OSX 10.6.3.
. 20 x Faderport, Firestudio Mobile, DT100, Oxygen 25.
. 20 x Studio One Pro 2 , Cubase 6, Logic Pro 9.

Music classroom 2:
. 20 x iMac 22" 3.06Ghz 8G RAM, OSX 10.7.4.
. 20 x Faderport, Firestudio Mobile, DT100, Oxygen 25.
. 20 x Studio One Pro 2 , Cubase 6, Logic Pro 9.
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mikeguitarman
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Joined: 22/04/2014 08:38:08
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Hi
Thanks for your reply

Sorry if I sounded to negative im just very frustrated at the moment as to why I cannot figure this problem out my production has kinda grounded at the moment and as I work I only have time to record at the weekend ive taken this week off to get back on track and having spent lots of money on the top version of S1 im just feeling frustrated

Im running on my girlfriends laptop which is a temp home whilst im having a top spec pc built the spec is fine it handles everything ok and im happy with it for now . . . as I stated my problem lies with getting S1 to recognise 3rd party vst plugins ive read the answers I received and all that is in place as they suggested but still im having no luck here . . . I suspect that because these plugins are from a torrent site which someone did for me they are not working properly but they appear as standalone and work fine and I have the dll files so I fail to see the problem with getting S1 to "see" them

Im shortly going to purchase these plugins (addictive keys &drums) so maybe I will have better luck then

sorry for any misunderstanding

Mike
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stroud college
Presonic
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Hi Mike

Sorry if my post was a bit curt.

What operating system are you running (OSX, Windows 7 or Windows ?
http://www.stroud.ac.uk/index.aspx

Music studio:
. 20 x iMac 22" 3.06Ghz 4G RAM, OSX 10.6.3.
. 20 x Faderport, Firestudio Mobile, DT100, Oxygen 25.
. 20 x Studio One Pro 2 , Cubase 6, Logic Pro 9.

Recording Studio:
. 2 x StudioLive 16.4.2 linked.
. iMac 22" 3.06Ghz 4G RAM, OSX 10.6.3.
. Studio One Pro 2 , Cubase 6, Logic Pro 9.
. Recorders: Alesis HD24, Tascam CD-RW900SL
. Compressors: TC Electronic C300 x 2, Behringer MDX2000
. Reverbs: Lexicon MX2000, TC Electronic M350 x 2, Alesis Midiverb4 x 2, Alesis Microverb, Behringer DSP2024
. Graphics: DBX 231 x 2
. Monitors: KRK VXT4, Tannoy Reveal 6D.

Music classroom 1:
. 20 x iMac 22" 3.06Ghz 4G RAM, OSX 10.6.3.
. 20 x Faderport, Firestudio Mobile, DT100, Oxygen 25.
. 20 x Studio One Pro 2 , Cubase 6, Logic Pro 9.

Music classroom 2:
. 20 x iMac 22" 3.06Ghz 8G RAM, OSX 10.7.4.
. 20 x Faderport, Firestudio Mobile, DT100, Oxygen 25.
. 20 x Studio One Pro 2 , Cubase 6, Logic Pro 9.
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mwright137
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So if I'm reading this correctly, you're upset that we didn't help you install illegally-obtained 3rd party plugins. Does that about sum it up?
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Studio One 2 Pro 2.6.2 (64 bit)
I use Gobbler to back up my projects.
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Rynlander
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There's probably more help to be had down in the Studio One forums as well.
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mikeguitarman
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Joined: 22/04/2014 08:38:08
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First of all . .
I am not upset that I cant install 3rd party plugins I was unaware that these were "illegal" I was assured that they would work and like so many before me if I thought I could get away with doing it on the cheap then hey I was gonna give it a shot ! however I have now discovered to my cost that this is not the way to go I was taken in by someone who overwhelmed me with all this . . hence my purchase of S1 pro I am now quite happy to go out and buy all my software and that's what I intend to do

It was not my intention to mislead or take advantage of anyone I am really in awe of this software and im really enjoying using it . . being fairly new to all this I was looking for some help on the forums and I hope I can continue doing that

Gonna download the Korg M1 this weekend and try to install that if I have any problems I do hope I can count on these forums tp help


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thanks
Mike

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mwright137
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I'll take you at your word. But for future reference, any software obtained through a Bit Torrent is most likely illegal. Getting something without paying for it is stealing, even in the digital domain.
I am Sir Melvis Bacon, Knight of BaconHam Palace.

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StudioLive 16.4.2; StudioLive 328AI (x2)
AudioBox 22 VSL; BlueTube DP V2; FaderPort; Monitor Station; FireStudio Project (x2)
Studio One 2 Pro 2.6.2 (64 bit)
I use Gobbler to back up my projects.
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cristofe
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And....BTW........if you have any further questions regarding Studio One please post them in the appropriate forum:

http://forumsarchive.presonus.com/forums/show/15.page

You'll get more/better responses if you post in the proper forums. If you have not already done so you must register your copy of S1 to have access to these forums.

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DAWS/VST Hosts: S1 Professional, Plogue Bidule, Xlutop Chainer, Sieb VSTHost & Savihost

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artkulak
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I have the same gripe.

Unfortunately it seems a lot of companies think this the future of technical support. The problem with this approach is that most of the people on the Forum requiring technical support are here because they are new to the products and even new to the technology ~ inexperienced. So it becomes more like the blind leading the blind.

Me, I'm an "old timer". I come from the analog world. I suspect the software kids designing this stuff never sat behind an analog recording or mastering console. And probably never recorded live music (as in live-in-concert). Many of these new products seem geared towards people who don't actually know how to play any instruments, never played live music in a band or orchestra. To them "making music" is assembling a bunch of loops created by other musicians. Those of us who've been around for a few generations actually have to "un-learn" what we knew in order to get going in the right direction.

IMHO these products need to be more focused on a specific application instead of trying to be all things to all people.

Just my (frustrated) two cents.
mwright137
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If you require technical support, submit a ticket or call technical support.

If you require support that other users might be able to provide, come to the forums and ask. That's why we're here.

On another note, I bet the software designers know more about analog consoles and live recording than you give them credit for - I'd hazard a guess they know more than any of us do.

What exactly did you have to "un-learn" to be able to use Studio One?
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StudioLive 16.4.2; StudioLive 328AI (x2)
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Studio One 2 Pro 2.6.2 (64 bit)
I use Gobbler to back up my projects.
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gadget69
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Remember guys, this is a USER forum, Many hang here in the hopes of learning and read all the posts of interest. They can't answer your questions even if they wanted to. There is so much help available for Studio one, videos, Youtube, and other vids available here, there is the Studio One forums where they speak the language...

We have a very knowledgeable community that will help in any way they can, but these people are volunteers here, and sometimes it takes a while before the right people get to these threads. Personally I have just had surgery and have been in and out of it since, so I'm not here as much, others have things ramping up as the weather gets nicer.

You can start a Tech service ticket as well and they will do everything they can to assist, but they need to know the issues to help.

Tech support is hoping to make a better experience with the Knowledge base. There you will hopefully be able to get the answers you need right away, and we are actively working on that.

Mike, Had you posted this in the Studio One forums I think your outcome would have been different, also, 'themusic'
http://forumsarchive.presonus.com/user/profile/217.page
takes students over Skype and he is very good and knowledgeable...
NOTE: If your having an issue, open a tech support ticket and bring the number here if you want help!
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artkulak
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mwright137 wrote:If you require technical support, submit a ticket or call technical support.

If you require support that other users might be able to provide, come to the forums and ask. That's why we're here.

On another note, I bet the software designers know more about analog consoles and live recording than you give them credit for - I'd hazard a guess they know more than any of us do.

What exactly did you have to "un-learn" to be able to use Studio One?


1. PreSonus doesn't provide support for the Professional Demo product.
2. How does PreSonus expect prospective buyers to use the product if they can't get the help they need to get up & running quickly?
3. I bet the software designers are just like the software designers in the CADD world (computer-aided design & drafting ie:AutoCAD). They're not architects, engineers or even draftsman. I know because I've been there. I see the same thing here.
4. When I setup a mixer/mikes/computer for live recording I plug the left main mike into channel 1, pan left. The right channel mike into channel 2, pan right, other mikes into remaining channels and pan/gain as necessary. Plug headphones into mixer and listen. Left & right mixed outputs go to left & right inputs on computer. That's it. Even if I were using a multi-track analog recorder it wouldn't be much different. What's with all this routing of multiple inputs & outputs and buses just to record 6 or 7 mono tracks with stereo output? It's insane. Even the terminology is screwy. It's like calling a cat a dog, except the dog is actually a horse.

In my experience with computers (34 years worth) good software doesn't need much technical support. It's very intuitive. When you select something that says "Draw" you expect to be able take your mouse or tablet pen and DRAW. And you get exactly what you expected. With PreSonus its seems you first have to learn that you're no longer working on a "project". You first work on a song. Even though there is no "song". Its a concert, lots of songs and editing all in one long file. I don't need or want to have my "song" assembled from 189 songs (27 songs in concert x 7 mikes). There isn't time for that in concert. You hit record "let the tape roll" making adjustments in real-time as you go and make the edits and detail balance changes later in mastering. Furthermore I find it time consuming and cumbersome to do so much setup and learning curve for something as simple as this. It's the same complaint I used to hear from other architects & engineers using AutoCAD when I was an AutoCAD dealer. I'm also an architect. In response to their complaints & needs I programmed AutoCAD to suit their needs because it, like PreSonus Studio One was trying to be all things to all people. I have better things to do than play around with software for a few weeks or more before I can confidently use it on a one-chance, one take recording situation and know that I can master it to stereo CD that so I have a product to sell.

Maybe what needs to be done is PreSonus should have some kind of setup templates that automatically do the configuration for various applications and audio interfaces.
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If all one needs is the functionality of Paint, one shouldn't buy AutoCad and then complain that it's too feature-laden and arcane.

Same thing here; if you're just recording a stereo signal, maybe you shouldn't be using a full-featured DAW with its concomitant learning curve.



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Maybe what needs to be done is PreSonus should have some kind of setup templates that automatically do the configuration for various applications and audio interfaces.


They do, and are available when you open a new song. Please try and put aside your obvious distaste for CAD software designers, as this is a totally different animal. Compared to anything else out there, S1 was by far the most intuitive. But to qualify that statement, I had a baseline of understanding of the product.

Would it be reasonable of me to complain about well designed CAD software, when I have no archetectural training, and all I am trying to do is get something resembling a blueprint to get the local code enforcement officer off my back for adding to my garage?

If you are having specific problems, ask away. If you have a specific application you are trying to use this for, describe it. Weather it comes from a Presonus Employee, or just another user, lets get the problem solved and get on with the day.
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