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Man, I hate this.

But, I am forced to ask, as PreSonus USB drivers seem to be handicapped in Windows 7 AND 8.1 (64-bit). And I have done ALL that has been suggested, and More. there's a nexus with StudioOne and the PreSonus USB drivers that's not getting along. Kinda a 1818VSL issue, but a S1 issue as well because it ONLY occurs within S1.

So: How is fire-wire playing with Win-8.1 (64bit) when using Studio One ?
Or, what other USB unit is there that is NOT having USB difficulties within 8.1 and Studio One ?

Damn it ! - I love my 1818, but it's GOT to work correctly or I must go another way. (A complete drop-out of playback audio EVERY 15 seconds [honest] is unacceptable) Really frustrating, because it runs the playing of ALL other audio, whether online, iTunes, etc. - This is all great, but S1 is my main objective.

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mwright137
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This thread may not belong in the Studio One forums...
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Well, I don't know. Maybe I could've presented it differently. (I made a few word changes in the original post)

These symptoms are present ONLY in StudioOne playback, not audio playback in general. I haven't been able to reproduce the glitch in any other media. Just sayin . . .

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Dropouts every 15 seconds strongly suggests a process interrupting in the background.

http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon

Jon

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Have you tried turning off your wireless internet? Yeah, it sounds like an interference.
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Latency report after several minutes run time: "Your system appears to be suitable for handling real-time audio and other tasks without dropouts."

I removed my wireless card LONG ago.


ALSO: I've attacking this as an 1818 issue, from the start. Today, we pretty much have determined that this is NOT a hardware issue. Sadly, it seems to be an ODD StudioOne matter. Very odd, indeed.

This was my last post on the 1818 issue -

badness wrote:After HOURS (literally) online/phone with PreSonus support (Thanks for trying Travis!): I still am lucky enough to experience, what he stated, was "something he has never seen before."

We, pretty much, are now certain that this is NOT a hardware issue. It's not the 1818. Not something onboard. Not external drives. Not the old, or the new USB card I got and installed. Not, at least as best we can tell, "hardware" drivers. not in a box, not with a fox, not able to figure this out, Sam-I-Am.

It now "appears" to be . . . a Studio One issue. But NOT in ANY way typical or, maybe even seen before. Again, I feel SO fortunate.

So, I am awaiting a member of the software side of the team, to reach out to me and, . . . . ?

Even uninstalled S1 and reinstalled. Even different versions.

And, again, the reason it seems to ONLY be an issue with S1 : It ONLY occurs within S1. No other audio issues with ANY other software, platform, etc.

At least I got to down the Frys' and walk around looking at everything I can't afford.

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Damn it.



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This is just absolutely CRAZEEEEEEEEEE . . . . !

*** NEW CLUE ***

I have carefully checked that ALL software was reinstalled (with the win8.1 update). All VSTs etc, as well.

Here's the new twist in this strange puzzle:

~ When I open a song that was recorded in an early version of S1 Version2 and play it back - It plays . . . . without a single drop out.
~ When I playback a song that was recorded in a more recent version (of Version2) . . . . I get the drop-out of audio EVERY 15 SECONDS.
~When I RECORD a new track (I tried a MIDI track today) and then play it back . . . . It plays WITHOUT a single drop out.

This behavior was reproduced for PreSonus support, to a "huh" reaction. "Never seen this before."

So, all my smarter than I am friends : This now is sounding (no pun intended) like, some of the saved song folders are flawed, in some way. More recently created/saved songs/folders. Narrowing the trouble down to "some type of corruption" in these folders.

Yes, except - why aren't files completely messed with? Or gone? or . . . ?
Why would these saved songs DROP OUT every 15 seconds ( mimicking a signal pulse or something hardware-ish) ?
How, in this world, could files get "corrupt", in exactly the same unique way?

Huddle up.
Okay.
GO !
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mwright137
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Just spitballing, but have you tried moving those songs to a different drive and see what happens? Maybe that drive needs a defrag?

/shrug
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Your PC spec's seem close to mine but I do not have your issue.
I use the FP10 firewire interface via the Thunderbolt port (see below).

It appears to be something inherent in your setup as the majority of S1 users don't have your issue.
I have had other issues on an older Vista PC (same FP10).

If you haven't already, you can search these forums. I seem to remember "audio dropout" issues but not what caused them.
Stay with it, you'll figure it out and learn a lot in the end.

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- mwright137 -
Yeah, we put an entire song folder on the main hard drive and it reproduced the exact same symptoms.

Tonight's homework :
I'm gonna save one of the songs to a new folder. Then see if it still does it. (I know - seems that the same files, will probably do the same thing, even in another file. But, because there are 'some', that are just fine, . . . . . what have I to lose.)

Maybe, move stems to a new version of the song?
Just a lot of work, for something that, really, shouldn't be happening.

I cannot believe how calm I have been over this.
Honest. This is a HUGE hold-up in my projects.

At least (although the projects mid-way are a huge issue), I think it records and plays just fine in what I create, post Win8.1 update.

but still . . . . .

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mwright137
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You might want to find a free WAV file header reader program and just see if there's anything funky in there.
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Something like this:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Other-AUDIO-Tools/Wav-File-Info.shtml

Then look and make sure the sample rate and bit depth match your song. If not, maybe Studio One or Windows is burping every once in a while converting the files to match the song...
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Blowing the tracks up, the files "appear" intact.
You'd think that a corrupt file would be, well, pretty corrupt. Not every 15 seconds. And, these are consecutive files in some cases. Not just a single file. Both wavs AND MIDI, not just actual audio. So, it's the Overall playing back.

So - strange.
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Look at the data in the header, not the graphical representation.
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Okay.
But, what are the odds that something, the same or not type file, audio or midi, would get altered at such regular intervals. Just, at these points in the songs that are acting up, ALL goes off for the one second. Then, plays just fine . . . . . . for 15 seconds. NEVER random.
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