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Daw stew wrote:This is why Studio One is better than cubase
https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/knowledgebase_new/show_details/kb_show/cubase-7-known-issues/kb_back/2020.html

No plug ins that are before VST 2.4 are compatible, neither are Ilok 1 plugs. Anyone remember how they didn't tell users they were dropping support for direct x plugs.


Oh yeah !
Personally, these are very annoying news: OK that a software when it's released could have a lot of little/big problems (and new correction patches are ready to be released, or at less I hope) and new features were added and others were reduced/deleted but this is seriously ridicolous....in all my honesty.
I don't have nothing against Cubase, but these kind of news are absolutely crappy...and creepy (for your state of mind, indeed....pay a software/upgrade and....ta-daaaam! The new version runs as a buggy car !)

Daw stew wrote:Reading the Steinberg forum and the cubase 7 kvr thread I'm reminded of the bad times with cubase. Plug ins crashing when cubase scans for them. Instability and uncertainty at opening a project. The users have my sympathy.


Yes, I undestand.
I come from Sonar, and these kind of "features" (crashes, instability problems) were a serious killer for my happiness (lose money it's always a bad notice).
This never happened for Studio One of course, and I'm very proud of this.

Just a bit of little problems with jBridge, but Joao (the developer) is a fantastic person and it has solved all my little bugs (I'm not sure but seems that it has released a beta version just for my specific needs).
And in every case, there's no problem in Studio One that has completely crashed my audio engine/setup....and this makes a real difference.
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i'm waiting for the bugs to be squashed before upgrading to c7. probably in a couple of months. 6.5 working extremely well for me, plus i have studio one 2.5 (and it's inevitable patches!) to play with...ed
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Eddie Macarthur wrote:i'm waiting for the bugs to be squashed before upgrading to c7.


This is always the best thing to do.
When a new software is released, logically it can have its starting issues and this can be applied for all the DAWs of the World, Studio One included (maybe this could be valid for....Studio One 3 ?).

But reading news like an unsupported VST development (and I think that there's no patch that will solve this in the future) or as crashes also with Steinberg hardware is a serious damage for the company under my point of view.
Ok, maybe Steinberg interfaces will need new drivers to work with 7, I hope....but always in my point of view this is over the limit of an user's/owner's comprension (or, precisely, an user like me).

Ok, even Pro Tools had its bugs when a new version of the software has been released but I've never read something about crashes with Avid hardware for Pro Tools HD, for example.

And I know: Cubase 6.5 was surely the most stable Cubase version ever released by Steinberg (and I mean stable....to be a Cubase! Because Reaper has been always able to load a lot of bridged plug-ins with the stock bridge system without the problems I had with Cubase in the past, just my experience), but why 7 has all these "lacks"?
They got mad in the head of something similar *?

* I'm kidding, logically .

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if i remember correctly, protools didn't even work with some of the later versions of apple osx. apple made changes and digidesign/protools hadn't kept up. and avid/digidesign often changed software leaving hardware users with no upgrade path (other than replacing with new hardware) as for logic, from what i've read it still doesn't fully utilise the 8 cores of a mac, even though they are owned by apple. reports say you'll get better performance (i.e. number of tracks and plugins) running cubase than logic on the same machine...
so the point is all daws have good and bad points.
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Eddie Macarthur wrote:
so the point is all daws have good and bad points.


Yes, I agree with this .
In Studio One, for example, I missed a lot of features from my dear FL Studio (that I've used also as a multitrack recording session and many people asked me how I've been able to doing this ) but when I use FL Studio I need a good number of features included in Studio One.

The only solution is a custom-made DAW software : who wants to try with this?

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Cybernaut wrote:The only solution is a custom-made DAW software : who wants to try with this?



Not to be snarky but there is Rewire, i use it all the time, there's no such thing as a "One stop" DAW.
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Cybernaut wrote:
The only solution is a custom-made DAW software


makes me kinda wonder when two companies are gonna actually partner to make ONE d.a.w. -

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CTStump wrote:
Cybernaut wrote:The only solution is a custom-made DAW software : who wants to try with this?



Not to be snarky but there is Rewire, i use it all the time, there's no such thing as a "One stop" DAW.


Hi friend!
Yes, I use FL in Rewire, but FL Studio in Rewire works as a VST(so I'm forced to use jBridge because I have Studio One 2 x64) and not as a real rewire as DAWs as Reason or Reaper for example.
Ok that VST or not the functionalities are the same of a traditonal rewire DAW system, but the VST-way of rewire really hurts my CPU's usage.

In every way, could be very cool to have a custom-build DAW : in my case, the pattern system of FL Studio combined with the easy of use of drag & drop in the mixer available in Studio One .

EDIT: I'm kidding again.

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Man i hate these threads on a products forum, of course S1 is BETTER.....here lol

i have both, i use both every week. SL24:4 live with capture, VSL and S1 2.5, recording ,mixing and mastering live shows etc

i use a yamaha n12 and C7 now in my home studio

i personally think the yamaha hardware is nicer, but the SL24 is fanastic

i was never a huge cubase fan but have used it for years. for me C7 is one brilliant update, its huge. the mixer is beautiful and insanely deep and tweakable, for me it wipes the floor with the S1 mixer window

but who cares really

in S1 i can very quickly drag and drop my way to a song

in cubase i can dig deep and use my eucon artist series controllers with great yamaha quality hardware and tweak forever.

which is better? for me hands down now C7 is much much deeper, more tweakable, and a fantastic tool for any circumstance from simple ideas to full blown production

does that make S1 2.5 any less of a DAW? nope not for me. i use it weekly and the integration presonus has put together with their hardware and the software is seemless and a thing of beauty

but cubase is not complicated, its not crap, its not anything more than a really advanced tool, probably the most comprehensive DAW out there now, IMHO

i literally have PT9, Logic 9, Reaper, C7, S1 2.5, DP 8, Reason something or other all lined up on my mac and guess what. today i am deleting all of them but C7 and S1, cause for me these 2 do it all, and do it all REALLY well.

haha, i swore i woundt get dragged in

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trock wrote:today i am deleting all of them but C7 and S1


Cubase > Pro Tools, huh?
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for what i do, its BY FAR better than PT 9 i had with this eleven rack

FAR BETTER

way less CPU errors, way better VSTi and midi, and just overall way deeper with what you can do

oh and 64 bit

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trock wrote:Man i hate these threads on a products forum, of course S1 is BETTER.....here lol

i have both, i use both every week. SL24:4 live with capture, VSL and S1 2.5, recording ,mixing and mastering live shows etc

i use a yamaha n12 and C7 now in my home studio

i personally think the yamaha hardware is nicer, but the SL24 is fanastic

i was never a huge cubase fan but have used it for years. for me C7 is one brilliant update, its huge. the mixer is beautiful and insanely deep and tweakable, for me it wipes the floor with the S1 mixer window

but who cares really

in S1 i can very quickly drag and drop my way to a song

in cubase i can dig deep and use my eucon artist series controllers with great yamaha quality hardware and tweak forever.

which is better? for me hands down now C7 is much much deeper, more tweakable, and a fantastic tool for any circumstance from simple ideas to full blown production

does that make S1 2.5 any less of a DAW? nope not for me. i use it weekly and the integration presonus has put together with their hardware and the software is seemless and a thing of beauty

but cubase is not complicated, its not crap, its not anything more than a really advanced tool, probably the most comprehensive DAW out there now, IMHO

i literally have PT9, Logic 9, Reaper, C7, S1 2.5, DP 8, Reason something or other all lined up on my mac and guess what. today i am deleting all of them but C7 and S1, cause for me these 2 do it all, and do it all REALLY well.

haha, i swore i woundt get dragged in

haha



Why do you think you find more users using FL Studio/Studio One or Ableton over Cubase you think? I'm coming from a producers standpoint in making music. Don't see too many dance or urban producer/dj's using cubase to make their beats. I guess if I was going for features I guess cubase would be fine compared to having a faster worker flow.
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As a previous cubase user I have to say that studio onereally doesn't excel at controller support. I really hope they focus on improving this area because its the weakest point of studio one.
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Daw stew wrote:As a previous cubase user I have to say that studio onereally doesn't excel at controller support. I really hope they focus on improving this area because its the weakest point of studio one.


Automap is NOT 'intuitive' at ALL in Studio One...so i gotta blame Novation for that.
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skinsdc wrote:
Why do you think you find more users using FL Studio/Studio One or Ableton over Cubase you think?


S1 & FL are WAY MORE user friendly and intuitive than Ableton and Cubase - HANDS DOWN
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