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With all of the options now that are just so fast and daisy chain compatible, there's bound to be something else out there? from what I understand, Firewire is heading out the door and being replaced by other things. Yes, I understand that there likely isn't much you can publicly say on this right now. But still, it's at least worth looking into.

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What about USB 3.0 or Thunderbolt?
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Intel needs to fix USB 3.0 first. As to Thunderbolt.....Presonus firewire devices can be used with Thunderbolt with an adapter.
Thunderbolt is still relatively new so many manufacturers are remaining cautious....waiting to see if it becomes a new standard.
That being said a couple of manufacturers are now offering Thunderbolt capable interfaces so Presonus may not be far behind.

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We've already been told that there will be Dante and Thunderbolt cards for the StudioLives and Presonus is part of the AVB alliance so we can hopefully anticipate some really cool interfaces from that as well.

It think Thunderbolt needs to be more widely accepted by the non AV community before we will start seeing a lot of it on the market and USB3 still suffers from many of the woes of it's predecessors so I don't see it a viable option for the future.
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It think Thunderbolt needs to be more widely accepted by the non AV community before we will start seeing a lot of it on the market and USB3 still suffers from many of the woes of it's predecessors so I don't see it a viable option for the future.



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Monolithent wrote:We've already been told that there will be Dante and Thunderbolt cards for the StudioLives and Presonus is part of the AVB alliance so we can hopefully anticipate some really cool interfaces from that as well.

It think Thunderbolt needs to be more widely accepted by the non AV community before we will start seeing a lot of it on the market and USB3 still suffers from many of the woes of it's predecessors so I don't see it a viable option for the future.


Just out of curiosity. Dante works on CAT5, correct? So if that is correct, would it work on an existing eternet port, or do some other shenanigans need to happen?
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While Dante uses the same cables and connectors I'm betting the answer is no......just a guess tho.

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matthewgorman wrote:

Just out of curiosity. Dante works on CAT5, correct? So if that is correct, would it work on an existing eternet port, or do some other shenanigans need to happen?


AFAIK Dante needs a dedicated ethernet bus/infrastructure and comes with own network cards for your computers. That's why this is an very expensive adventure
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Which probably means it won't be the be all end all for laptop users either, if I understand you correctly. Most Ethernet in a laptop is in the mobo.
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matthewgorman wrote:Which probably means it won't be the be all end all for laptop users either, if I understand you correctly. Most Ethernet in a laptop is in the mobo.


Ah, hope is near (I haven't looked for Audinate for a while now)

http://www.audinate.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=238

Virtual Soundcard, using your normal computer network port and working as a software-only solution. But i don't know how the peformance is on a non-dedicated bus system.
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Cool!!

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vaikl wrote:
matthewgorman wrote:Which probably means it won't be the be all end all for laptop users either, if I understand you correctly. Most Ethernet in a laptop is in the mobo.


Ah, hope is near (I haven't looked for Audinate for a while now)

http://www.audinate.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=238

Virtual Soundcard, using your normal computer network port and working as a software-only solution. But i don't know how the peformance is on a non-dedicated bus system.


Thats kinda cool. Almost makes me want to future proof myself and pick it up for $30.00.

Thanks for the heads up.
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The virtual soundcard works on your native ethernet port. It is limited to 64x64 channels so you can connect up to two dante enabled sl32ai to record and/or stream all of those channels.

This of course means that your other computer hardware must be able to sustain all of those 128 channels

I posted about the dante virtual soundcard a couple of months ago but no one seemed to be interested...

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I posted about the dante virtual soundcard a couple of months ago but no one seemed to be interested...


I remember that now that you mention it......I think perhaps the apparent lack of interest may just be due to the fact that,
even now, dante is still in it's infancy. I think a lot of potential users are playing a "wait & see" game. That would certainly
be the case for anyone that bought into mLan......and got burned. The Firestation comes immediately to mind.

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I posted about the dante virtual soundcard a couple of months ago but no one seemed to be interested...


Didn't really understand the protocol back then, and didn't really have any upgrade path on my min d. I had a trusty server that has served me well for about 8 years go down on me, so I am feeling a little mortal about my iron clad systems.
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