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mwright137
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I hope I picked the right forum for this question. If not, move it.

What do you guys do when you just don't feel motivated to do anything in the studio?

In my younger years, I would spend hours on end just programming my old RY30 drum machine so I could record a 3 minute song. Nowadays, I'm lucky if I pick up my laptop at all some days. As of now, it's been a couple weeks since I did anything in the studio. So now that I have all the toys I need to record properly, I no longer have the same drive I used to. Or the free time, for that matter - my wife would kill me if I disappeared for hours into my home studio.

Anyway, just looking for suggestions for finding my missing mojo...
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Tell us more of what you did in the studio.

Do you play and instrument?
Do you produces music via loops or remixes?
Are you melodically oriented or rhythmic oriented?
Do you sing?
Do you have writers block?

This will determine the path for advice. .
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I'd say this is the right place for your Q.

As jpettit says, tell us what you've done and what you're able to or want to do and that will help us help you.

If you indeed have S1 yet no instrument or audio interface, you can start playing with the loops... which there are a plethora of. If you don't know what the "loops" are you'll have to read the manual or watch some YouTube videos about S1 loops.
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Forget the studio toys, start with an instrument or just your voice or whatever.

If you have the pro version, just hum a melody in a microphone, convert it to MIDI with Melodyne, let a synth play it, loop it, beat box something to it and go from there..

It's all about being like a child and playing around and not thinking about the end result.
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For me I find listening to great music is inspirational. Listen to some of your fave records. It was the music that inspired you to get into it in the first place. Go right back to basics and reconnect with the very things that excited you originally.

Not only great commercial music but do you have any ideas or sketches that you may have done in the past that you thought I must flesh these out and finish one day. I have got tons of cassettes of me noodling around in my studio back in the early 80's. I find there are often gems of ideas on there that inspire me even today.

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Or the free time, for that matter - my wife would kill me if I disappeared for hours into my home studio.


I think most suffer from this one, or at least I do.

I have found myself in similar circumstances a few times. The first time it happened I quit my band (current situation right now), as the longtime partnership was becoming an issue.

My situation currently is is producing a friends band, and mixing for 2 others. When I get in that rut, I pull out some old material to work on, something I am more of a part of, and that usually gets me going. I have a few vanity projects from my earlier studio days that I have converted to digital, and they will usually get me past my "writers block".

That being said, I can't devote the time per session that I was able to in my younger, kid/wifeless days, and that is just something I have to adapt to and balance.

Sometimes if you have been working with the same bands, etc, some new blood helps.
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Good questions. I should have been more informative.

I write music.
I play guitar.
I sing.
I record bands when I do sound for them, including my own band(s).
I mix.
I "produce".
I master.
I-I-I-I-I...lol

Most of these I've been doing since the early 1990's, although never as more than just a hobby. Started a side business of it last year but not really trying all that hard to grow it. I like my real job so I'm not looking for this to take over.

I am currently in a classic rock cover band as well as an acoustic duo. I record most shows and tinker with them afterwards. We don't play that often right now - we've only had our current lineup for about 4 months so we're still working on cover songs.

I had a real drive to make an EP over Christmas break (I took two weeks off of work) but my partner in crime never showed up. I guess that kind of deflated me. All that wasted time.

I am finding myself seeking out music I used to really like lately. Almost like I'm missing something somewhere.

Jeez - I feel like I'm on a psychiatrist's couch...lol
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Whenever this happens to me I usually put myself on the spot by putting together a project with someone else. This usually involves inviting other musicians I know to work on a track. Sometimes they're local, sometimes I work with them over the web. Recently I've reconnected with a friend that used to gig with our band 30 years ago. I've been sending him song demos and he's been providing lyrics. What makes this fun is that both his band in California and our band in Omaha are playing the songs.

We're also starting to record full band versions of the songs and in some cases he'll be adding vocals to our version.

Doing things like this keep me motivated as I don't want to be a slacker. Like you, I'm a part-timer and it is a great hobby for me.
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Have you tried a healthy dose of Red Wine and Turkey? For the wife that is.
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I hear ya' Melvis......I find myself in the same situation. Life is mighty ironic like that. I recorded so much more of my own music when all I had was a cassette 4-Trk. Now it's "So many toys so little time."

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I am in literally the EXACT boat as you my friend.

I'm 4 years married now. I just spent a grip of money via upgrades and software buys, and have put in countless hours on system tweaking.

As of next week, my studio will finally be exactly how I want it and envisioned it, to the T. And guess what... I have zero song ideas and zero drive lmao.

My first way to attack it is to finish old projects or ideas that I started, but never dug myself into.

It's like working out at the gym. You really have to force yourself to get going. it's not easy. But... once you get going.. it becomes hard to stop. I would start w/ any old projects you have.. or random ideas you had but never tried out Push yourself to complete things. We all have ideas we wanted to try but never did.

Once you do that... i think your mojo will come back.

If not.... re-master an old project from scratch. Re-do the entire instrumentation. Take your old recorded material and put it toegther better (with the theory that you are better now than you were at the time you originally recorded the material).
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The topic is probably beyond this forum but some ideas...
I write music. I play guitar.I sing.

Expand your craft of writing.
There are entire schools and books on whee to start and each starting point will lead to a different song.
When I start with a cool riff or chords the idea can end up being just that a cool groove but not a complete song.
Start with words, the words yield melodies, the melody yields the chords/harmonies
I record bands when I do sound for them, including my own band(s) I am currently in a classic rock cover band cover songs.

If you have band tracks try out my latest video on matching them up to the grid then you are free to add loops other instruments etc and come up with better band arrangements http://forumsarchive.presonus.com/posts/list/44163.page The song does not match your genre but it is the technique we are talking about here.
acoustic duo.
the tempo mapping your live recording is a great idea for a duo.

Start to play with your arrangements. take you duo or band and try the same old songs to a new beat, Try adding some wing to a classic rock song. Play around with software that lets you experiment with different chord in the arrangement. http://www.cognitone.com/products/nav/screenshots/page.stml

my partner in crime

Get more serious about this. Work out a schedule with your spare time and family (wife) to have a certain day,evening or time to jam on the above ideas. Collaboration is always a good way to get the creative juices flowing.

seeking out music I used to really like lately

Listen to the songs with a different mind set. What made them good? the lyrics the melody, the beat? Try to write something similar with your friend.

BTW it normal to have dry spells. Try thing a bit differently and it will yield new things.



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Good stuff.

It might also help to just intentionally change your routine. If you regular start with the guitar, put it down and start a new song with just lyrics and lyrical melody or vice versa, just get outside of your normal songwriting approach. Sometimes just changing your regular routine can both inspire you and lead you to completely different musical places.

Take all of the above with the grain o' salt necessary when a person who's actually not a real musician gives you musical advice.

Edit: To explain my fuzzy logic above...

My observation is that motivation is driven by excitement , that when you're excited about something you're really motivated to go to work. When i see a musician / songwriter kinda in a slump, not being able to get motivated to write, it seems to often be that there's just nothing to interesting going on muscially for him or her, none of their recent musical ideas have really excited them.

That's why I say maybe change the musical routine, if nothing you've done musically recently is exciting you enough. Once something does excite you musically, motivation won't be a problem.

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cristofe wrote:I hear ya' Melvis......I find myself in the same situation. Life is mighty ironic like that. I recorded so much more of my own music when all I had was a cassette 4-Trk. Now it's "So many toys so little time."




Having too many sonic options can be nearly as bad as not having enough.

But really, being overwhelmed with options is only a problem if you find yourself becoming indecisive.

For me, creativity is usually triggered when inspiration is flowing. And inspiration is usually flowing when I have a catalyst for inspiration, a life changing event, perhaps, or something that just gets the creative engine sparked, a new sound I've created, or a rhythm, or some part of something that can jump start the process.

When I begin to create, I usually only have a vague idea of what will follow as I assemble the music, part by part, track by track. This is often more of an intuitive [or somewhat accidental] process for me rather than a purposeful and procedural undertaking that has a grand plan as to what is to be accomplished.

I like to work with different styles of music, short songs, or long. I have a lot of things that are in various phases of completion. I try to think outside of the box, and to experiment a lot!
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matthewgorman wrote:Have you tried a healthy dose of Red Wine and Turkey? For the wife that is.



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