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Daw stew
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Well, its out.
Steinberg have released the next major update to Cubase 7.
Probably a paid update (not like the good folks at Presonus)

http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/cubase/whats_new/whats_new_in_cubase_75.html
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If you read the page you linked too you would have seen the grace period set at Oct.15 as the start of the free upgrades.

All purchased before that are paid.

Typical Steinberg behavior.

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it's gonna cost 49 euro for Cubase 7 owners. track version and "peaks navigation" look good, as well as the improvements in the score editor. The rest is quite useless to me so I am not sure to upgrade. I wish to quit with Cubase and make S1 (which has the best workflow I ever found in a DAW) my only DAW, but the score editor, the tempo detection, the clip statistics and few other things still prevent me to do so. S1 is still young so I am optimist
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Yup, that's become the typical steinberg practice these days. Glad i ditched them at version 5.5
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Looks pretty good for $50. I'm glad the .5's here are free. I hope it remains that way indefinitely.

Anyway, nice new features there in 7.5.

Hopefully, they'll do what they did last time and push some of the bug fixes back to 7.06 or whatever.

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Track versions is a pretty great idea. I hope S1 V3 is coming soon - without having track presets I am still having to do all my mixing in Cubendo, and with track versions, mixing just got even better there. Here is to hoping the fine folks at PreSonus have something killer up their sleeve soon regarding V3!
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Track versions is a great idea... as is the re-record. Visibility option is also nice.. something S1 already has.

As for $50 for a .5 release... <shrug>. The marketing number is irrelevant. Either you feel the new features are worth the money or you don't. Not sure what an arbitrary numbering scheme has to do with $ and why users expect releases that are predominantly feature oriented (point release or not) to be free.

If I were a Cubase user, I would gladly spend $ for those two options on an upgrade. But they'd have to get rid of the dongle before I'd ever even consider their product.

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You guys do realize that track versions there are basically just playlists / track layers right?

The only real difference there is that it also applies to the tempo amd chord tracks and they may not group switch, not sure.
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LMike wrote:You guys do realize that track versions there are basically just playlists / track layers right?

The only real difference there is that it also applies to the tempo amd chord tracks and they may not group switch, not sure.


How would you do this in S1 without creating a new project for each version?

I'm not doubting.. I just didn't know you could do this in S1... if it's there, it's not intuitive (at least to me).
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Track layers. Duplicate the active Layer, make a new empty layer, record on it, name it, etc, etc.

Track "Versions" = Track Layers. Been in S1 since 1.0. Been in PT (playlists) for many years before that. Not dismissing the Cubase feature but hearing two people say "great idea" puzzled me a little bit. It's not exactly a new idea.


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LMike wrote:Track layers. Duplicate the active Layer, make a new empty layer, record on it, name it, etc, etc.

Track "Versions" = Track Layers. Been in S1 since 1.0. Been in PT (playlists) for many years before that. Not dismissing the Cubase feature but hearing two people say "great idea" puzzled me a little bit. It's not exactly a new idea.




Not really - track versions recall all insert/fx settings as well (or at least that is what I think it does) where in S1 it only changes the audio/midi on the track. If I am mistaken about the insert/fx part, then yes, it is pretty much the same as track layers.

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Feck wrote:
LMike wrote:Track layers. Duplicate the active Layer, make a new empty layer, record on it, name it, etc, etc.

Track "Versions" = Track Layers. Been in S1 since 1.0. Been in PT (playlists) for many years before that. Not dismissing the Cubase feature but hearing two people say "great idea" puzzled me a little bit. It's not exactly a new idea.




Not really - track versions recall all insert/fx settings as well (or at least that is what I think it does) where in S1 it only changes the audio/midi on the track. If I am mistaken about the insert/fx part, then yes, it is pretty much the same as track layers.

That's my understanding as well.
The ability to try different Chord progressions... using the chord track - looking forward to that to that!!

I will definitely be upgrading.
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I agree with Mike. All new features in Cubase 7.5 are things that PT and S1 already have, so I would not consider them as good or new ideas. They could be better implemented but this is another story.

What I really don't understand about Cubase (which anyway is a great product) is that programmers still spend most of the time working on plugins, vsti, toys, etc...even though they are perfectly aware that 90% of Cubase users use 3rd party stuff for those things, as the latter sound better (or have a better workflow). So Cubase comes with a lot of plugins, vsti and toys but, after 20 years, it has not yet included a "bounce in place" function...

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dr4kan wrote:I agree with Mike. All new features in Cubase 7.5 are things that PT and S1 already have, so I would not consider them as good or new ideas. They could be better implemented but this is another story.

What I really don't understand about Cubase (which anyway is a great product) is that programmers still spend most of the time working on plugins, vsti, toys, etc...even though they are perfectly aware that 90% of Cubase users use 3rd party stuff for those things, as the latter sound better (or have a better workflow). So Cubase comes with a lot of plugins, vsti and toys but, after 20 years, it has not yet included a "bounce in place" function...


In the sense of all things fair and equal, Cubase has dozens of functions and features copied by PT.. as for S1 ...It's really Cubendo stripped down, which for me is a strength and an alternative tool.

There are several things I wish S1 would incorporate from Cubase, but because I know I just open cubase and do it there, I don't get to excited.

For me it's like comparing Roland to Yamaha or Korg workstations ... different styles/strokes
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clickonce wrote:As for $50 for a .5 release... <shrug>. The marketing number is irrelevant. Either you feel the new features are worth the money or you don't. Not sure what an arbitrary numbering scheme has to do with $ and why users expect releases that are predominantly feature oriented (point release or not) to be free.

The problem a lot of Cubase users have is existing bugs and basic core features are often ignored in these paid updates.
But maybe a bigger problem of this business model is, the previous release will only get one last .0.x update. So after just a year it is at the end of it's life cycle, with only 3 officially supported 0.x updates.
 
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