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jBranam
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i am wanting to get a dynamic mic just for ambient purposes. i have two mics... one is dynamic i use for direct mic of amps... the other is a vocal condenser but runs phantom 48v so i can't run them together. both work great for my purposes here at home but i would like to run two dynamics... one to mic amp and another like an overhead to grab ambiance of the room.

i could hook up my lexicon alpha i reckon to track the dynamic (has no 48v) and do ambiance with the rodes condenser but i don't really want to run two interfaces. i would prefer to just grab a cheap dynamic to record air!

my main interface is the audiobox usb.

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As long as you are using a balanced dynamic mic it won't care if you have phantom power turned on. You can use the condenser and dynamic mic at the same time.

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I would suggest getting an external Phantom power supply. They're cheap, and your LDC will do a much better job than a cheap dynamic.

Problem with dynamics for ambiance is that they have a limited range. Condensers have a longer falloff. I was going to initially suggest an omni condenser for this task, but if you already have a condenser and can capture two channels of audio, just get a phantom power supply for it. It will be better quality and cheaper for you.
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The Shure SM57 is the classic. I need to purchase a new one.

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i know i would like a sm57 but being disabled and on a fixed income... kinda hard to swing a benjamin. what i am using is the CAD 411 supercardoid dynamic and it sounds pretty damn good on my little 1 watt amp. (Blackstar HT-1) not sure if it is balanced but it does use a balanced XLR if that is what you are talking about.

i wasn't gonna stick it across the room... just maybe 4-6 ft away from the source so i am not real concerned on range.

i thought about trying both at the same time... but the 48v scares me. sure as hell don't want to burn something out.

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Sm57, seriously, buy used if too expensive.
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jBranam wrote: i thought about trying both at the same time... but the 48v scares me. sure as hell don't want to burn something out.


Phantom Power won't burn anything out unless you're using a cheap/old/badly wired ribbon mic. In fact, some boards don't even let you select phantom per channel -- it's all or nothing, with the general expectation that your dynamics will be mixed in with your condensers. There is absolutely nothing to worry about here. If your plugging a condenser into a phantom power supply, well, there is ABSOLUTELY nothing to worry about here.

This is the sort of thing I was talking about that you can add if your interface doesn't supply phantom power.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/behringer-ps400-micropower-power-supply

Maybe I'm just not understanding the rest of the problem. Does your interface take two mics?
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I run both all the time. Lately I have been liking the SM58 on guitar cabs more than the 57, and I have an AKG condenser. Even though I have an FST, I run them out of the same channel pair all the time.
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stratoholic wrote:The Shure SM57 is the classic. I need to purchase a new one.


If you do, look into the Granelli modified 57's. IS a stock 57, with a 95 degree bend in it. Works awesome on snare drum. It slides right in under the hihat for great rejection. About 50 bucks more than a 57, and they sell the kit to modify your existing mics.

http://www.granelliaudiolabs.com/information/
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You might want to sign up for the "Stupid Deals" auto email from Musicians Friend. I bought a new Shure SM48 for only $29.99.

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I'm a fan of, (some), CAD mics.....been using a D189 on guitar cabs and sometimes like it better than my SM57.

http://cadaudio.com/D189.php

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Used SM57 for $50.

I bought one off Ebay for $50 a while back... they put two in there!!!!
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shure-SM57-Dynamic-Cable-Professional-Microphone-/190939019771?pt=US_Pro_Audio_Microphones&hash=item2c74da39fb#ht_63wt_1068
$35+ shipping.
4 hours left on the auction.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shure-SM57-Dynamic-Microphone-Cable-Professional-Microphone-/321234761575?pt=US_Pro_Audio_Microphones&hash=item4acb157767#ht_63wt_1068
$65 Buy It Now, free shipping
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Be careful on ebay. There are a lot of fakes on there. Many of them are very hard to distinguish. They even do a very good job of mimicking the Shure packaging.
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I've become something of a fan of the Sennheiser e835 since I bought one to match my bands frontline. Very 58-ish, solid build, and you can find'em for under 100 bucks.
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