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I hope everyone is alright at Presonus and God Bless those who suffer from this, My prayers are with you.

Here is a link to the Story:

http://news.yahoo.com/blast-fire-reported-louisiana-chemicals-plant-local-tv-143353481.html

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Yikes! Hope all is well...
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Yikes indeed.

I used to work in a foundry driving hot slag around with a hi-lo and I always feared a furnace explosion. I can't say I missed that job when they laid me off.

I do hope that everyone injured fully recovers, and quickly.
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It's no joke.

I had a job 20 years ago helping to install video cameras on top of silos. There was little attention given to safety and I was too young to know any better.

Some years after I left that job two guys were killed working on top of a silo when it exploded. The term 'empty silo' is an oxymoron.

Anyway, let's hope there are better safety standards after this and profits aren't the only parameter.
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Wow, sorry to hear this. Hoping for the best to those severely impacted.
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Unfortunately and contrary to the news reporting yesterday, apparently at least one person has died.

It's a very sad, if not traumatic, thing when a loved one leaves home for work and never comes back alive. iIve witnessed some of those notifications by sheer chance in my old day job, and even though you don't hear the phone conversation you always know exactly what it is because the person holding the phone just completely breaks down, loses it completely.

Very sad.

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Rangersam wrote:

Anyway, let's hope there are better safety standards after this and profits aren't the only parameter.


Amen to that. To me, the saddest thing of all is that many companies seem to regard tragedy as merely an unavoidable cost of doing business, and too many times nothing really changes -- the regulations that are supposed to protect people are still often very poorly enforced (if enforced at all), or are so lacking in any meaningful penalties or consequences that companies aren't forced to make any real changes in the way they do business.

I apologize for getting a little political, here, on our normally peaceful and politically neutral space -- I don't really want to open up any idealogical flame wars, but I often wonder: how many tragedies (and how much poisoning of the environment) have to occur before people will wake up to the fact that some government regulation is useful, necessary, and desirable, and that mega corporations do not always know best and have our backs?
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It is certainly true that some companies put profit before safety, there is no doubt about that at all. And nothing I say here should be taken in any way as implying anything about the accident in Baton Rouge. That's what investigations are for, to determine a cause.

But I've spent some time in some dangerous jobs, one I mentioned earlier, another being an Armored Calvary soldier and another being a public utility worker and manager and I can tell you first hand that - a lot - of workers get complacent after awhile and start ignoring basic safety procedures. A lot. Like way more than you'd probably guess.

When I was a field manager I must have personally suspended at least 10-20 people for climbing without their safety gear, or not testing for stray electrical power, things that could kill them. In the Army people often die in training when basic safety rules are ignored, and they do sometimes get ignored.

This kind of worker relaxation of safety has especially devestating consequences with things like natural gas. We've had two major gas explosions here in the last couple of years or so and at least one was caused by workers not doing what they should have done.

It's not always the company.
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I agree, LMike, and I appreciate your measured response. I certainly should have qualified my statements much better -- just one more reason to think more before I open my big mouth -- and becasue I certainly don't know the details of this particular incident, at all.

As you so correctly point out, there can be lots of human reasons for these kinds of things, too, and true "accidents" not born of human error of all kinds I'm sure happen quite regularly. So I'm totally on board with the idea that it isn't always the company's fault when things go wrong.

It is usually best to ignore me when I get on the old soapbox -- at least that is what my wife does, and it seems to work pretty well for her! Citizens, please go back to your homes and continue with what you were doing -- there is nothing to see here -- move along, now...
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