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Got to play with an X32 last night...
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DJIceman97
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After a show last night, I got to go to my buddy's birthday party, where he had his new system out to play with (X32, with iNuke amplifiers powering a set of WorxAudio three-way cabinets over a set of Turbosound TMS4 dual 18's)...what happened with his limited headroom, I'm not sure, but as far as the X32 itself, I got to play with it for a short time before heading home (he was running sound for his son's band and there were SO many feedback issues)

- The processing is very hard to see and control, especially at night
- The moving faders are nice, but only having 16 at a time makes it a little more PITA to control, especially when you have to switch pages for the second half of the channels
- The aux bus control seems a little more of a PITA to adjust for each channel

Like I said, this was my limited experience on the X32 while I was there, versus me being a dedicated Presonus user. I plan on going over one day and actually sitting down and playing with it. It is nice for remote control (the app is a little better than Presonus Remote), but as far as the board itself, I find it a little more of a pain to work with, at least for someone being thrown into the mix. The Presonus is a lot easier to explain to someone that is coming from an analog board.
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DJIceman97 wrote:- The processing is very hard to see and control, especially at night
- The moving faders are nice, but only having 16 at a time makes it a little more PITA to control, especially when you have to switch pages for the second half of the channels
- The aux bus control seems a little more of a PITA to adjust for each channel

I'm not sure what you mean by 'processing'. Everything can be viewed and edited at the lcd in addition to the dedicated controls on the control surface. But in any case a gooseneck lamp is good to have in dark venues. It eases on the eyes.

As with any digital mixer with layers one tries to put lesser used inputs on one layer and the rest on the other layer. So in the case of 2x16 channels the drums usually goes to one layer and the rest on the second layer.

In addition to that one tend to mix within subgroups and dca's so you really don't need access to all faders constantly.

The aux bus works as in the studiolive - Known as sends-on-fader.

You select an aux output and the faders becomes the channel levels for that output. Pretty much standard on most digital consoles nowdays.
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i've spent hours playing around with an x32. never at a gig, but i've built entire scenes, maniuplated processing, etc.

i've also, more recently, taken the new soundcraft expression out for gigs. i gotta say - that soundcraft board is so much more elegant. it takes the ease-of-use that the studiolive offers, and makes it a bit more "professional" and even easier to use. for anyone interested in taking the next step up from the SL - those Expression mixers are where its at. on the flip-side, the soundcraft offers NO recording capabilities without spending extra loot on the recording card (which isn't available yet).

the x32 seems unnecessarily complex. the SL is similar but much easier. the soundcraft is fast and easiest.
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I've heard good things about the soundcraft (after the initial firmware havoc they created). Unfortunently I've not come across one yet...

I got my x32 in august last year so there is not plan to jump ship within some near future since I'm quite happy with it and the announced features that should be coming sounds very promising.

I've also invested in the stagebox and personal monitoring system as well.

If the soundcraft was released before I got my x32 then who knows what I'd use today
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rockstardave wrote:i've spent hours playing around with an x32. never at a gig, but i've built entire scenes, maniuplated processing, etc.

i've also, more recently, taken the new soundcraft expression out for gigs. i gotta say - that soundcraft board is so much more elegant. it takes the ease-of-use that the studiolive offers, and makes it a bit more "professional" and even easier to use. for anyone interested in taking the next step up from the SL - those Expression mixers are where its at. on the flip-side, the soundcraft offers NO recording capabilities without spending extra loot on the recording card (which isn't available yet).

the x32 seems unnecessarily complex. the SL is similar but much easier. the soundcraft is fast and easiest.


My buddy had an Si Compact 32 he is trying to sell, he loved it but I think he's getting the Expression as well. I really do think the X32 is too complex for a true FOH board. The app is great, it allows individual control of everything, so I think it's great for bar bands in limited spaces, maybe a bit better than the Presonus at that point (especially since you can remote control the pre's and such). But for a dedicated FOH mixer for a small sound company, I'll stick with my Presonus. I hope I can get the 32.4.2AI soon, I'd REALLY like to upgrade to one.
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I mixed a show last Friday night on an X32 and I must say; It's a really nice desk for the money. Clean sound and very easy to use. I really like the USB interface and recording capabilities for PC. They are definitely moving in the right direction. I was able to record 16 tracks via USB 2.0 at 48k. Love it!!! Did a mixdown and the band loved the sound quality. Spoke to a Behringer rep who told me that they very close to USB 3.0 capabilities. Hallaluyah!!! Finally!!! Been waiting forever!!!

That said, I still prefer my StudioLive mixer. Like a comfortable pair of shoes. The workflow is more intuitive for me. I prefer to work with UC and my laptop connected. I love Presonus and the support that they provide. They really are the best at what they do. I just hope that they get caught up with USB 3.0 connectivity soon. They're lagging behind on that.

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I work on the X32 for a friends band, at first it was a little daunting but once I got the DCA's
setup. No problem, I still love my Studiolive 24 and we have a 16.4 also for smaller gigs
As far as recording, I like the Presonus capture it's simple. The X32 you have to get things routed
to your recording software.
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The SL and X32 are both good consoles. Which is best depends on your experience level, which layout suits you, and your needs (channel count, aux count, # of FX, etc.).

Except for the lack of real faders, I prefer the iPad to the SL surface. With the X32 the choice is less clear cut. Overall I prefer the X32, but sometimes the simplicity of the SL better suits the gig.
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I read today that the x32-compact is available in some shops now.

However, I don't like that the normal x32 and x32-compact are so close in price...
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From what I'm told in a future update to the x32 software pitch correction is going to be included ,live auto tune
I am seriously considering there ipad mixer as a back up
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