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Dmitriy_m2m
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Joined: 24/12/2012 15:31:19
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Does anybody use uad plugins in studio one 64 bit? I know about jbridge but now I'm intertesting in real 64 bit uad. Are there any problems? Are there any real users?
Focusrite Saffire Pro 40, Yamaha HS80m
Windows 7 x64 Intel Core i7 based PC
Studio One 2 Pro, UAD 2 QUAD
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robmac10
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I have a Uad Quad card in my 64x studio one and It seems to be working just fine.... as far as i can tell.
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Dmitriy_m2m
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robmac10 wrote:I have a Uad Quad card in my 64x studio one and It seems to be working just fine.... as far as i can tell.

It's good, thank you. Do you use mac or pc?
Focusrite Saffire Pro 40, Yamaha HS80m
Windows 7 x64 Intel Core i7 based PC
Studio One 2 Pro, UAD 2 QUAD
Kemper Profiling Amp

CPhoenix
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Joined: 13/03/2011 00:11:38
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I'm looking at getting one in the notso distant future so i've been reading up on them and doing searches on these forums.

They seem to work very well from what I've read so far. You will notice a lot of people listing them in their signatures which definitely is a positive sign.

I heard there were issues before w/ older versions of S1, but I think those issues were specifically addressed in one of S1's many hotfixes and is a thing of the past.


I would purchase with confidence at this point.

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Win 8.1 x64 // i7 3930K (@ 4.2GHz) // Samsung Pro 512GB // 500GB SSD (via Raid 0) // 2TB HD // 32GB RAM // Antec Kuhler 620 // Radeon HD 7870 + Radeon 5450 // MSI X79a GD45 Plus mobo// TI chipset Firewire card

DAW(s): Studio One v2.6 // Maschine Studio // Reason 7 via Rewire
Plugs: UAD 2 Quad, Softube CL 1b, Klanghelm, Toneboosters, Soundtoys, Slate VTM, Kramer Tape
Instr.: Addictive Drums, Gladiator2, Sylenth, AAS Bundle, K9U, IK Total Studio 3, Cinesamples, RealGuitar/Strat/LPC, Trilian

RME UCX // AKG c214 // SM57 + Cloudlifter CL1 // JBL LSR 4328p // FMR RNLA // Korg Kaossilator Pro // Novation 61 SL MKii // Korg MicroKey 25 // Presonus Faderport // Contour Designs Shuttle Pro

Next up: Motif XS rack
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an.unna.kid
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Joined: 18/10/2011 21:28:15
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I use UAD 2 Nevana and it works perfectly in 64 bit.
I wished that Presonus could match the genius mover of implementing their own "Jbrige" plugin in Studio one. JUST, like Cubase has done.


it's all about the song.
Gearlist:
Computer: Frost i7, 3.5ghz (8core) W7, 32 gig ram.
Desk: Mackie Sr 40-8, Yamaha 01.
Monitors: Focal CMS 65, Genelec 8030/1030/6010.
DSP: Liquid mix 32 x2, SSL Duende 32 x2, UAD2 Nevana, Powercore X8 and powercore compact.
Ouboard: Shadow hills Dual Vandergraph, Elysia Xpressor, Harrison 32eq, UBK Clariphonic, Tk Audio Bc1, GAP Comp 54, Art PRO VLA II, Tc G-force/Finalizer/m350, Focusrite Liquid channel, JMP 1(mod), SPL Transient 2, SPL Vitalizer, Lexicon Mx200/Alex/.
Sound card: MOTU 828/Ultralite mk3, Art tube opto/ Alesis AI3(lightpipe).
Controllers: BCF2000 x2, Nocturn, Kore2, Kore 1, Korg ms-20, Arturia analog factory, Samsung touchpad,
Synths: Arturia Origin, Waldorf blofeld, Alesis Qs7. Arturia Spark, Sm Pro V-machine, Roland Spd 11, Maschine Mikro, Virus C.
Pedals: Tc nova drive, Tech 21, Hartcke.
Mics: Röde K2, NTK, ADk 52 x 4, Sputnik, JJlabs, Shure, Sennheiser.
Plugins:
Sonnox, Slate digital, Spl, Fabfilter, Duende Native,
And many more...
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CPhoenix
Presonoid

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^there's literally no chance of an S1 bridge... not anytime soon or even in the future lol

I was pushing heavy for this... but they essentially outright said it's just not in their gameplan to support that, as they don't want to sacrifice the stability of S1. understandable approach to it, even if i disagree.. gotta respect it.

Jbridge works well.... but there seems to be some quirks i'm running into operating a ultra low latencies (like 64, 48, even 128 to an extent).

I'm slowly porting EVERYTHING over to 64bit so I don't have to worry, and only keeping a few things Jbridged for backwards compatability, or if the plugin is just really that damn good that i don't want to find a 64bit alternative. 9 times otu of 10 though there's another plugin that will get the job done just as well, and most of the big name stuff has 64bit versions now
Win 8.1 x64 // i7 3930K (@ 4.2GHz) // Samsung Pro 512GB // 500GB SSD (via Raid 0) // 2TB HD // 32GB RAM // Antec Kuhler 620 // Radeon HD 7870 + Radeon 5450 // MSI X79a GD45 Plus mobo// TI chipset Firewire card

DAW(s): Studio One v2.6 // Maschine Studio // Reason 7 via Rewire
Plugs: UAD 2 Quad, Softube CL 1b, Klanghelm, Toneboosters, Soundtoys, Slate VTM, Kramer Tape
Instr.: Addictive Drums, Gladiator2, Sylenth, AAS Bundle, K9U, IK Total Studio 3, Cinesamples, RealGuitar/Strat/LPC, Trilian

RME UCX // AKG c214 // SM57 + Cloudlifter CL1 // JBL LSR 4328p // FMR RNLA // Korg Kaossilator Pro // Novation 61 SL MKii // Korg MicroKey 25 // Presonus Faderport // Contour Designs Shuttle Pro

Next up: Motif XS rack
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an.unna.kid
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Joined: 18/10/2011 21:28:15
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Forgive me but thats pretty stupid of S1 devs to say. I ENVY at the fact that my peers using Cubase can actually use their 32 bit plugins from Powercore and Liquid mix on 64 bit platform and according to them, everything works smoothly and without hassle.

I love Studio One but I can see my self moving to Cubase just for the love of the tools I'm used to work with while mixing. I love S1's easy way of working but if this is the way they treat customers, with statements like this then I might jump ship and NOT promote their stuff here in Sweden.

Im shocked to hear and read this statement and I'm afraid of the future of S1 having this tunnel vision thinking.

S1 you just lost a VERY good customer if this is true.

Daniel
it's all about the song.
Gearlist:
Computer: Frost i7, 3.5ghz (8core) W7, 32 gig ram.
Desk: Mackie Sr 40-8, Yamaha 01.
Monitors: Focal CMS 65, Genelec 8030/1030/6010.
DSP: Liquid mix 32 x2, SSL Duende 32 x2, UAD2 Nevana, Powercore X8 and powercore compact.
Ouboard: Shadow hills Dual Vandergraph, Elysia Xpressor, Harrison 32eq, UBK Clariphonic, Tk Audio Bc1, GAP Comp 54, Art PRO VLA II, Tc G-force/Finalizer/m350, Focusrite Liquid channel, JMP 1(mod), SPL Transient 2, SPL Vitalizer, Lexicon Mx200/Alex/.
Sound card: MOTU 828/Ultralite mk3, Art tube opto/ Alesis AI3(lightpipe).
Controllers: BCF2000 x2, Nocturn, Kore2, Kore 1, Korg ms-20, Arturia analog factory, Samsung touchpad,
Synths: Arturia Origin, Waldorf blofeld, Alesis Qs7. Arturia Spark, Sm Pro V-machine, Roland Spd 11, Maschine Mikro, Virus C.
Pedals: Tc nova drive, Tech 21, Hartcke.
Mics: Röde K2, NTK, ADk 52 x 4, Sputnik, JJlabs, Shure, Sennheiser.
Plugins:
Sonnox, Slate digital, Spl, Fabfilter, Duende Native,
And many more...
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CPhoenix
Presonoid

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^not to stray your opinion (you can do whatever ya want!)... but the issue is that there can never really be a perfect bit-bridge b/c of the wide variety of plugins.

I was on your side of the fence for a while. I decided to stay w/ S1 after considering 1) how much i didn't like Cubase anymore (that was actually my DAW of choice before S1).. and 2) the amount of work I was able to do in S1 was tremendously quicker compared to Cubase. I knocked out 1-2 albums in nearly half the time as I did when working in Cubase. And lastly 3) I read a lot of posts about how bad the bitbridge implementation is in Cubase and how unstable it is... people used to complain a lot about the amount of crashes.

Granted.... when I was considering jumping to 32bit, at that time... I was in between Cubase and S1. I noticed problems... but the issues were with both DAWs. I was using Jbridge for both... never used Cubase's bitbridge... only heard of it and decided to stay away from it and not run a 64bit Cubase to find out for myself, i was already portingo ver to S1 by that point. Just wanna throw that disclaimer.

Wanting to stick w/ S1 turned out to be a good decision for me... b/c I pinpointed which plugins I was specifically concerned about and sought out solutions. I ended up landing on even better software lol. For example... I really liked using Khjaerus plugins... especially the MPL limiter and the basic compressor. Well.... along came Stillwell Audio ( i now use their limiter and the S1 limiter) and Klanghelm (i LOOOVVVEEEE this compressor... might be the best one i have). So... solutions started getting resolved. Anything else that I couldn't solve (like my Kontakt CPU issues with Mojo Horns)... I just Jbridge it. It's a very solid solution. Not perfect... but solid if you keep down the Jbridge instances. You can also play w/ the settings to improve it's stabilty.


So in short... that was my experience. I ended up just accepting their stance and adjusting my workflow and i'm happy i did... but I would never try to convince someone to do the same. If Cubase is for you then go for it.. the goal is to make music... not to make everyone a fan of one DAW vs. the other.

If a bitbridge is of concern to you... i would recommend Reaper to be honest. Out of all the DAWs i tested when doing my 32bit to 64bit conversion process... Reaper seemed to be the most stable, by far. I don't know what they did in that bitbridge... but it felt very very solid. I just hate the GUI and couldn't get into Reaper's workflow, so i stayed on the S1 path.

But yeah... a S1 made bitbridge isn't gonna happen any time soon, they feel their helping keep S1 stable by leaving that out and feel it's in the best interest of the software and it's users. It's not like their saying "screw u... we're ignoring you and don't wanna put in the work to do it" lmao... nah, they have a philosophy behind it, if that helps.

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Win 8.1 x64 // i7 3930K (@ 4.2GHz) // Samsung Pro 512GB // 500GB SSD (via Raid 0) // 2TB HD // 32GB RAM // Antec Kuhler 620 // Radeon HD 7870 + Radeon 5450 // MSI X79a GD45 Plus mobo// TI chipset Firewire card

DAW(s): Studio One v2.6 // Maschine Studio // Reason 7 via Rewire
Plugs: UAD 2 Quad, Softube CL 1b, Klanghelm, Toneboosters, Soundtoys, Slate VTM, Kramer Tape
Instr.: Addictive Drums, Gladiator2, Sylenth, AAS Bundle, K9U, IK Total Studio 3, Cinesamples, RealGuitar/Strat/LPC, Trilian

RME UCX // AKG c214 // SM57 + Cloudlifter CL1 // JBL LSR 4328p // FMR RNLA // Korg Kaossilator Pro // Novation 61 SL MKii // Korg MicroKey 25 // Presonus Faderport // Contour Designs Shuttle Pro

Next up: Motif XS rack
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CPhoenix
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PS... i will lastly mention this so you get a better idea of this company.. (so sorry to hijack this thread... this is my last comment, this was supposed to be abotu UAD lol)

A few months back, when S1 was on version 2.0.2, I made some serious complaints about the bitbridge topic. S1 devs paid it some close attention. Jbridge was not working properly with S1... with no much fault by the Jbridge developer Joao who is very active in updating his software so it works with the major DAWs. I did a lot of tests and posted by resutls on the board.

To my surprise... when 2.0.3 came out and I upgraded my version... S1 all of the sudden was MUCH more solid with Jbridge. It was to the point that it was actually very usable as a solution.. and it's been that way ever since. I found out in a thread by a dev that they actually changed the audio engine in S1... and it made an extraordinary improvement in stability, not only with Jbridge but with S1 in general (since there were stability problems after all of the v2 feature additions).

So yeah... they listen, and they respond. But they stick to their philosphies if they believe it's true... i couldn't really be mad at that. Jbridge works fine... as long as the entire project isn't Jbridged at low latency... that's just asking for trouble.

Also... to keep the count down... I ended up using 32bit S1 and Jbridging just the few plugins (like Kontakt) that I needed the extra 4GB of memory for. That was a fantastic solution for me.

I'm now full 64bit w/ a few 32bit plugs bridged... but the 32bit S1 with 32bitplugs bridged was a great answer... that might be a solution to whatever issues ur having.

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Win 8.1 x64 // i7 3930K (@ 4.2GHz) // Samsung Pro 512GB // 500GB SSD (via Raid 0) // 2TB HD // 32GB RAM // Antec Kuhler 620 // Radeon HD 7870 + Radeon 5450 // MSI X79a GD45 Plus mobo// TI chipset Firewire card

DAW(s): Studio One v2.6 // Maschine Studio // Reason 7 via Rewire
Plugs: UAD 2 Quad, Softube CL 1b, Klanghelm, Toneboosters, Soundtoys, Slate VTM, Kramer Tape
Instr.: Addictive Drums, Gladiator2, Sylenth, AAS Bundle, K9U, IK Total Studio 3, Cinesamples, RealGuitar/Strat/LPC, Trilian

RME UCX // AKG c214 // SM57 + Cloudlifter CL1 // JBL LSR 4328p // FMR RNLA // Korg Kaossilator Pro // Novation 61 SL MKii // Korg MicroKey 25 // Presonus Faderport // Contour Designs Shuttle Pro

Next up: Motif XS rack
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an.unna.kid
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Joined: 18/10/2011 21:28:15
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I just moved over to 64 bit and I find my self not "loving" 64 bit because of the fact that many of my tools that may or may not define the sound I get are in fact on 32 bit and might never be available in 64 bit...
My peers on Cubase on the other hand are enjoying and loving Cubase 64 bit and they are enjoying the fact of not having to Jbridge potential plugins, so they are in that case bypassing a sure headache.
I never had any big problems recording music in low latency and now especially when using a powerful computer I don't have any problems at all. I always restart and choose 1024 for mix and 64 for recording.
Sometimes when using certain plugins like Slate digital trigger or VCC I get some spike in low latency but that's nothing compared to what happened with my old dual core setup.
When S1 updated to 2.5 I knew that they didn't care about dual core users anymore. I needed to upgrade anyway so I bought my self an updated computer. Seeing that S1 will not help their customer with a first party jbrige plugin is very troubling to hear and this does not accommodate me into thinking that the future is on S1 but rather on Cubase as they after all listen to their customers and care about their artists as they/we are the ones after all creating the music and THATS what makes the world turn.


Sad sad sad presonus S1/2 user here.....

it's all about the song.
Gearlist:
Computer: Frost i7, 3.5ghz (8core) W7, 32 gig ram.
Desk: Mackie Sr 40-8, Yamaha 01.
Monitors: Focal CMS 65, Genelec 8030/1030/6010.
DSP: Liquid mix 32 x2, SSL Duende 32 x2, UAD2 Nevana, Powercore X8 and powercore compact.
Ouboard: Shadow hills Dual Vandergraph, Elysia Xpressor, Harrison 32eq, UBK Clariphonic, Tk Audio Bc1, GAP Comp 54, Art PRO VLA II, Tc G-force/Finalizer/m350, Focusrite Liquid channel, JMP 1(mod), SPL Transient 2, SPL Vitalizer, Lexicon Mx200/Alex/.
Sound card: MOTU 828/Ultralite mk3, Art tube opto/ Alesis AI3(lightpipe).
Controllers: BCF2000 x2, Nocturn, Kore2, Kore 1, Korg ms-20, Arturia analog factory, Samsung touchpad,
Synths: Arturia Origin, Waldorf blofeld, Alesis Qs7. Arturia Spark, Sm Pro V-machine, Roland Spd 11, Maschine Mikro, Virus C.
Pedals: Tc nova drive, Tech 21, Hartcke.
Mics: Röde K2, NTK, ADk 52 x 4, Sputnik, JJlabs, Shure, Sennheiser.
Plugins:
Sonnox, Slate digital, Spl, Fabfilter, Duende Native,
And many more...
[WWW]
 
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