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jBranam
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yeah matt... reading back... it kinda sounded like an oprah segment... LMFAO

as for the KMT... i tend to use it on a bus by itself and direct things through it usually after the 'glue' bus. i send tracks into the gluing compressor then out of the glue stage into the KMT for additional warmth. now if i need it to enhance a certain audio track or instrument then i will add it as an insert on that track.

i wouldn't add it to post either but there are no rules... do what you think best and ALWAYS try things... they work or they don't and you never know until you try. the ONLY things i put on the post is a VU meter to keep an eye on the whole and on certain occasions i will put an IR convolution plug like OpenAIR... find the right impulse but NEVER crack it open past 13% mix to add ambiance to the whole work... a slight airy feel but you DON'T want to actually hear it. and if i DO add the air i put it before my VU meter so i can again monitor the whole output to be safe.

but that is just me and how i do things.

and clive... i have all but given up on gaming. the consoles ruined everything. all you get now on PC is ports from the consoles. very few actual PC games anymore... the BIG money is in console gaming and THAT sucks!

and tawan... my ex-fiance is from chiang mai. she had only been in the states for less than 6 months when i met her. i was with her for over four years... taught her english and american slang... i learned a little thai but i am a badass thai cook now. she cooked all the country style foods. the thai women all said i cook hotter than thai... i love the thai chili. i STILL eat chili paste with my eggs for breakfast and put fishy sauce on EVERYTHING! lol first time i ate with her family they fed me monkey balls and when i began to eat it they asked if i knew what i was eating... they told me thinking i would be shocked but i kept on eating and they just laughed and laughed... i didn't care... that shit was GOOD! and my nickname among the thai women was "White Monkey" hehe and they always said "kun bah mak mak" (you very very crazy)

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jBranam wrote:
and tawan... my ex-fiance is from chiang mai. she had only been in the states for less than 6 months when i met her. i was with her for over four years... taught her english and american slang... i learned a little thai but i am a badass thai cook now. she cooked all the country style foods. the thai women all said i cook hotter than thai... i love the thai chili. i STILL eat chili paste with my eggs for breakfast and put fishy sauce on EVERYTHING! lol first time i ate with her family they fed me monkey balls and when i began to eat it they asked if i knew what i was eating... they told me thinking i would be shocked but i kept on eating and they just laughed and laughed... i didn't care... that shit was GOOD! and my nickname among the thai women was "White Monkey" hehe and they always said "kun bah mak mak" (you very very crazy)


Lol I'm glad you love Thai foods. I'm a bad cook, only cook when I need to (I had been in Canada for 6 months on business trip. Have to cook to save some money so I can buy a new guitar ). Besides I cannot take too spicy foods!.

Btw, back then when I was working in a game company, it was 2005 I believe, console game was the only way to survive. Mobile (java, J2ME, MIDP, whatever you call it) game market was very saturated and the operators were not so helpful (there's no 'AppStore' at that time), PC game cost millions to produce. Console game is a lot cheaper to create, and the platform owner (in my case it was Nintendo) did help a lot.

My ex-boss told me later that his games in WiiU makes more money than iOS and Android combined. This surprises a lot of people, as you can see Angry Bird or Flappy Bird making a lot of money, and you get only 20% of the revenue from the WiiU title (given that the game is not self-publish by the developer) comparing to 70% in mobile appstore. Mobile market is now even more saturated, it's a bloody-red ocean market.

Well I'm straying out of the topic too far I guess.
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matthewgorman wrote:
garywilliamson1 wrote:I bought the Kramer Master Tape plug in from Waves when it was on sale last weekend. for $24, I could not pass it up.

Haven't had a chance to use it a whole lot but I put it in a mastering chain on my project page and its staying there.


As it should be. The only thing that I noticed is you may want to0 put it on the individual song insert instead of the post. I have a small project now, and the songs have varying levels. This plug really comes alive when you pay attention to the in/out meters. It was affecting the3 songs differently, not necessarily bad, but in a way I didn't want. Also, if you have it on the master insert, and you have any plugs on the individual songs, the same could happen.

Other than that, I couldn't be happier with the purchase.


thanks for the tip!
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got the $49 SE version of Geist on the way. not into electronic drums but i DO like the way they have the step sequencer set up and since i have plenty of great samples of kits with BFD2 and some of Platinum Samples kits for BFD2... i think it may be of use to me in creating drum sequences for my original compositions.

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Lokeyfly wrote: I'm looking into the Midi Guitar, by Jam Origin. It's no longer in beta but at version 1.0. Unlike some other 1.0 releases, (that begin with a B), it works splendid. This I will demo later in the week when I have a chance.

I was going to go for the Fishman Triple Play, but I don't need to have every string track on its own so well, but the overall chord or playability of the midi guitar is really very good. About 15 milliseconds delay, and that's about what I am getting with my Roland GK2 and GR-50.

The problem with the Roland, is it's stationary. It's in my studio rack, and hooking it up to my Strat with adhesive, and setting it up is a PITA. The midi guitar just works, and we all know about when inspiration comes a knockin'. Plus it's $99 vs $350 and nothing to hook up. It's right there all of the time, so if I'm plugged in already with guitar, it's a plugin away.

If the midi guitar looks good, I'll post it here.

JBranam wrote: as for the midi-guitar... i played with it quite a bit months back when it was still in beta and was free and i really liked the idea and concept so please tells us what you think of it. what is REALLY nice about it is... you can hook up a mic into it and hum or sing a melody into it and get the midi pattern of that input also. so if you hear it in your head you can get down in midi. the beta version i tested was not polyphonic and was STILL quite useful and i know they have made advances on it since then. so please do tell...


OK, more to report on Jam Origin's Midi Guitar.

So I got to playing with it, and as you know the first go around, I was disappointed about the turn off time of one minute, and the poor sensitivity issue of having to strike notes harder than I cared to, with little time to adjust sensitivity due to the damn plug quick shut down time..........................

I went into the next session thinking, I wont use my Gretch, but lets try the Fender Strat. The difference was amazing, so I'm just not sure why as both signal strengths were strong, the results were very different. I will go back to the Gretch at a later time, but the short of it is, the tracking is quite good. Another anomaly sorted out is that I had more time to play, and the program did not shut down as quickly. Maybe, I just had a bad review day, but I did state it was a quick half hour setup, and play scenario, with more to come.

Well, more has come, and the darn thing tracks pretty OK. Really, very ok. In the final analysis, I will pay the $99. I believe it's a fair asking price for a job nicely done. Yes some notes were missed, but very few. I did have to slightly play a tad harder when I heard some notes were missed, but A. it was not unreasonably harder, and B. I haven't even set up the sensitivity yet!

Another plus which was VERY important to me was the tracking dynamics. I was able to do two things quite expressively, and reliably:
1. Even in Polyphonic mode, you can play fast, and 32nd notes were tracked cleanly. Enough that approximately 92 to 95% of the notes are tracked well. Adjusting sensitivity should raise the percentage as long as it does not become too sensitive and mis-track. Note: There's a monophonic mode as well, I suspect not so much for tracking faster, as it is to simulate monophonic instruments that do not play polyphonic, such as horns, and some wind instruments.
2. Velocity sensitivity, or better described as it is a guitar, volume sensitivity of each note is tracked as such. I was able to increase a soft played note (not too soft mind you), but gradually increase the velocity dynamic by playing harder. This was a very nice graduation of soft to hard playing revealing good dynamics of each note.
Damn, I had a screen capture to show you guys, but I just copied and passed some text, but next go around, I'll capture it to show you. Very impressive!

I suspect the split will be between someone insisting every note be heard, and honestly, this is my second day in with trial software, and I'm liking the results.

The plugin this time did not turn off quickly, and my theory is, when I first ran the program, I opened up the self running program. I then loaded S1, and inserted the plugin. It is quite possible I had two instances running, though I could not detect the self running program being open. Since my review, is not from Sound On Sound, with a week to get the review to the editor, and then reach the Senior editors desk by the month's end, I am letting you know every step. Even if I trip over a wire or two.

The trial runs about 5 minutes. Then you gat a Close/Buy/Next selection. Next runs the trial ware for about another 5 minutes, and then it's done. you have to re load another setup.

So, Thumbs up . This will be my next purchase. Getting excited already..........

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well i still ain't installed the demo but from the sounds of it... it IS better than the beta i tested. did you notice what register the few missed notes were? as i recall and stated before the lower registers were the troublesome ones but to be honest even melodyne has trouble at times with low registers. i figure it is the 'density' of the signal. middle and high registers are not so 'wide' and are more focused in tone. i did watch the video of the dude playin the washburn with piano output which is quite cool. i remember late 80s or early 90s... i think it was Roland that had a special pickup you could mount that fed the signal to a rack processor to do midi info and had patches you could change to like piano and strings. it was way cool... but also WAY expensive. quite a bit more than $99. keep the info coming on it because it is on my back burner. i am STILL interested in getting it down the road but as you all know i am spending bucks on improving my fundamental recording package. i have a few key components set like the RCA desk console and will soon have my bus compressors thanks to crazyD45. he is gonna loan me the $$$ to get the VBC on sale and i am gonna pay him back when my funds come in at the beginning of the month. i have taken to heart to limit myself on components like Graham from RecordingRevolution tries to emphasize. if you constantly search for more and more gear and have way too much to choose from... you tend to lose focus on the main objective and THAT is the music. i have my console emulation, my compressors, my tape deck and my environment (S1) that i will use all the time and all i need now is a few effects. i have one good reverb... the Toraverb but i also want to get ValhallaRoom and VintageVerb. i have two great EQs... the Melda AutoDynamicEQ and the ProEQ that comes with S1 that will be my mainstays. so i am close to having my setup. i am sure there will be little additions down the road but these things i just mentioned will be used ALL the time on EVERYTHING i do. to me it is a GREAT base to work with.

but the main thing i am lacking is instruments. i am leaning towards Kontakt because of the wide array of libraries. there is one i truly want for it and that is the Kinetic Metal but i want to get off the free player and that alone will cost me big. the full Kontakt is kinda expensive and i will have to save to get it but i hate that the free player only runs 3rd party libraries in demo mode which really sucks the BIG ONE!

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a heads up on transient shapers... i have the june issue of Computer Music and it has a plug in it for free called the TransectorCM. i played with it last night and it is pretty darn good. not as good as the SPL Transient Designer but darn close and it has good adjustments (like a mix knob) http://lvcaudio.com/plugins/transector/ not sure about the difference between the CM version that came in the magazine ($4.99) and the one on the sight... so if interested you can grab the mag and download the free CM version but the one LVC Audio sells is only $30.
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JBranam wrote: did you notice what register the few missed notes were? as i recall and stated before the lower registers were the troublesome ones but to be honest even melodyne has trouble at times with low registers.
No register problem I could see with Midi Guitar. I remember you mentioned this so I went after checking that specificly, and it's really just playing with as much precision as you can for the notes to be read, or probably a better word, deciphered. It simply forces one to change their technique slightly. All of the midi guitar modules or pickups force this behavior. No real low, mid, high differences I could detect just yet, and by trying to detect that, so yes it must have gotten better. Thanks for pointing out though as part of the check.

With Melodyne, at least on the polyphonic front, I have not come across it misreading some lower registers reading different than others, but placing lower harmonics, and what it cannot filter in sometimes lower regions (from obviously even other pitches, and just reads them usually in a lower harmonic). With Melodyne, there's a huge difference in what is being sorted, because its' deciphering and holding onto the actual audio data. Therefore, Melodyne does it's best with the information and sorts pitch, but if the character of the information is complex with many similar pitches, and even similar overtones, it will often pair things up where it can. forming blobs of bass pitches, or blobs almost anywhere, where it just sees similarity in pitch. Often, some of those blobs are practically, inaudible. But there's actually a little something there, it just cant filter everything, so it sorts what it can with what it can.

I guess for both programs, the saying "garbage in, garbage out" applies. Or maybe a better way to put it is "complexity in, is just plain tougher to read".

Sort of like you're learning a new language, and the other party doesn't know, so they speak normally, and you say "Whoa, easy there partner.....I'm rather new at this".

Sorry for the repeat edits but editing from my phone.

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well that is cool... it means things are getting better. as for melodyne... the time or two i saw it misread were not instruments but vocal parts i brought in to get a midi imprint to use else where so it may be the source used that faltered. again... i use things in ways they weren't exactly meant to be used. i don't tend to think inside the box.
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Slate Digital RC-Tube Console based on the RCA BC-6B Radio Desk, Slate Digital Virtual Bus Compressors, Waves Kramer Master Tape, Aphex Vintage Aural Exciter, Abbey Road Reel ADT, Melda Productions MAutoDynamicEQ and the Slate Digital FG-X (My Base Foundation Plugins) and a few other trinkets...





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jBranam wrote:well that is cool... it means things are getting better. as for melodyne... the time or two i saw it misread were not instruments but vocal parts i brought in to get a midi imprint to use else where so it may be the source used that faltered. again... i use things in ways they weren't exactly meant to be used. i don't tend to think inside the box.


Good man, thinking outside the box is what makes music so special. If everyone conformed then music would not be art and its art that stimulates the mind.
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Agree. Remember to push that envelope. That's where you find things.
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Purchased: Jam Origin's Midi Guitar $99.95
Couldn't resist.

So I'll leave my Roland GR-50 in the Studio Rack. The Midi Guitar has met my expectations.

I think Jam Origin would be better off having an uninterrupted 15 day trial period. The way it is now is not very easy to demo. Fortunately, their product works where it needs to. When actually using it. The demo pretty much allows you to know you are getting notes successfully, but that's about it.

I play with some odd time signatures and phrasing at times, with some progressive things, and being able to use the guitar to trigger midi really allows me to settle in and find chords and leads much easier.

Though, I still find time and a place for the "keys". This is a major development for convenience and cost for guitar players who wish to take the plunge.

One down, one to go.
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I hate you I looked at the various vids on it now I want it gggrrrrrhhhh!!!!!

I need the lottery to come up tonight for me, my current shopping list has reached a new all time high

Think of me when you are enjoying your new toy

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Like the new pic J. The Travis Bickle look was worrying me a bit.
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matthewgorman wrote:Like the new pic J. The Travis Bickle look was worrying me a bit.

Yeah, I had to double take when I first saw it, reminded me of Ian Gillan, eeemmm come to think of it anyone from that era looked like Ian gillan.
i5 @4.4Ghz, 16 GB Ram, GTX 550TI graphics
OS:Win7 64
Focusrite Sappire Pro 24DSP, M-Audio Oxygen 49 (3rdGen), KRK Rokit 6, Cakewalk MA-150.
Main DAW S1, Creation DAW Reason,
Fav plugs in no particular order: BDF3, Amplitube3, Guitar Rig 5, Kuassa Crème and Vermillion, Elysia mpressor, iZotope: Nectar 2, Alloy2, Ozone5, Waves: Center, PuigTec, V comp,VEQ, Kramer Master Tape, CLA guitars, Maserati DRM, CLA comps, Reel ADT, Scheps73, plus few more I can't remember
 
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