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New Studio One user.....Coming over form PT 10....I'm impressed
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davidvignola
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Hey Gang:

Well, I have had a chance to start using S1 Pro this weekend. I was the one who posted this thread about making the move from PT for a variety of reasons.

http://forumsarchive.presonus.com/posts/list/35358.page

I upgraded form S1 artist on Thursday night when I saw that presonus was offering a 33% discount on S1 Pro. That's really a hell of a deal. Anyway, I have played with the program for about 5-6 hours and I must say I am impressed! Thus far the program seems to be stable and no crashed yet, unlike PT 10 which is common place. The program and it's function are very well thought out and once comfortable, I am sure the workflow will be much faster with most other DAW's. Yes, there is a learning curve which is a bit frustrating at times but that is to be expected and several people here on this forum have been really helpful, helping me learn the basics.

For someone that is considering moving away from PT due to the constant technical "trouble shooting" that has made PT famous or any other DAW for that matter, then you should give Studio One Pro a look. Here are the few things I instantly love about Studio One

1. - Being able to master and burn a CD form the same software, is something that is waaaaaay over due in the DAW market. Very well thought out and super convenient.

2. Drag and drop is the way you do almost everything is makes adding inserts, tracks etc....super fast and easy

3. As silly as this sounds, I love the home page where you have all the latest presouns news on product discounts etc..That's how I found out about picking up 2.5 Pro for 33% off! Again, for $267 for this amazing piece of software......unbelievable. PT 10 native is $700......go figure

4. Love the browser. Makes finding VST, loops, instruments super fast without having to leave the program.

5. Love that you can modify the keyboard shortcuts to behave like PT. I have those burned into my brain after being a PT user for so many years. That is very helpful....

Those are my fav things after only using this program a few hours. I know there are far more important features I am missing here but again, I am literally a hand full of hours into the program so I wanted to give my very first impressions. Now a couple of things I thought could be better or maybe can be done and I just dont know how too yet?

1. the user interface. The dark grey and over all dark background on the edit page seems very outdated looking to me. Not very "clean" looking. I like the way other DAW's have a solid whit background so when you color tracks etc, things pop a look a lot more pleasing to the eye. Maybe you can customize the look for the screen....not sure.

2. I think because they tried to make everything fit on to a single screen, the UI in general looks way too busy. Again,maybe its because everything to so dark in color? I don't know but I'm not thrilled with the overall look.

3. When using a muse to control VST's controls it's super easy to turn a control know too much, meaning all the controls are super sensitive. Same thing with the mixer faders. You need to have a super light touch to not over adjust a parameter. This could be an issue when working at a fast pace.?

4. When auto save kicks in, and I have it set to every 3 min because when using PT I was always scared to death that the program would crash in the middle and I would loose my most recent changes so I like to consistently save to minimum the risk. In S1, the dialog box pops up and goes through it's saving function and it takes 10-15 seconds, which if your in the middle of something on screen you are locked until the same completes. AND, your not saving a backup file of the session like in PT where they actually have a history file so if the project file you are working on gets corrupt you can open a back up which is a separate file. That has saved my ass in PT many times. I am hoping the S! can do the same thing if I can figure out how to set that up.....

Other than that, I will say I really like what I have seen thus far and plan to continue to put S1 through it's paces to see how stable the program really is. That is my main reason for making the move form PT.......STABILITY! Pro tools sucks in that way and I have grown tired of being an I.T. guy more than a musician!

I'll keep everyone posted and hopefully this will help someone else.










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Daw stew
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Hi David, glad you're enjoying the software.
I agree with your comment about the lack of colour, at the moment its mostly grey or blue, a dash of something different on the icons i think would make them more noticeable. As a guy coming from PT do you prefer the fader channels to be all one colour or do you prefer the S1 way of having a small colour block at the bottom of a channel just under the fader?

I'd also like to see larger more distinct icons (when you group tracks the grouped tracks indicator icon is small and you guessed it grey). Also the icons for VST2 and VST3 are quite to differentiate.

I disagree on the cluttered GUI, i think there's plenty of space available. If you compare it to Sonar there isn't that much going on.
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davidvignola
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I guess I prefer to have the entire channel a different color, which can be done in PT. The overall look f the UI seems way outdated to me I guess and compared to Cubase and PT simply does not look as good....to me that is. It's all a matter of preference I guess.

I also think they try to cram too much on the EDIT screen. I dont know anything about sonar but again form my experience in Cubase 5 and PT10 things seems much "cleaner" and much easier to find.

However, I am loving the functionally of S1and if it is stable then I am sold!
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Daw stew
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Yes, I and quite a few others prefer the PT approach of colouring the entire channel. There is a feature request for this so hopefully we'll see it.
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moraldecay31
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as for your point number 3 in your dislikes. you can hold down the shift key while adjusting any parameter with your mouse and it will go in way smaller increments with the same movement of your mouse. its a good way to make fine adjustments of any parameter in stuuio one.
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You can also old down cntrl and click the mouse on a parameter and it will bring it back to the zero or default poition
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I use a PC though not sure is its the same in a mac
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Thanks again for all the help!

I continue to work with S1 Pro and the more I use it the more I like it. I find myself smiling a lot when I discover a new way to do something, and it ends up being so particle that I think "that was simple". The engineers that developed this really took all the best features from other popular DAW's and wrapped it into one nice, easy to use DAW. Great job presonus! And again, for a full retail of $399 that's literally HALF of the "industry" standard DAW.

I have now started exporting songs that were recorded in PT 10 and moving the unprocessed raw stems into S1 to edit and mix. I think with in a month or so I will be putting my Avid Eleven rack and PT 10 on e-bay and be completely done with the PT nightmare that it has been for me.

The one thing that would make using Studio One Pro the "holy grail" of DAW's for me any way, is to make the Studio Live board a control surface for Studio One. I have a 16.4.2 and if you could daisy chain two of those together and use it like say a C24 is for Pro Tools, then Presouns would really be over the top in my book, seeing as a C24 from Avid is like $10,000 new and a Studio Live 16.4 is like $2,000. That's just my opinion. I am sure Presouns has been asked about this a million times as it's the next logical step. Maybe in the near future we will see that capability. I really hope so.

I am really happy I decided to try S1 as it's starting to look like I have found my DAW of choice.......I'll keep you posted!
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as for number one you can expand the mixer into its own window by clickin the maximize buton in the mixer inspector window.
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I agree on all of the above

But one thing missing in Studio One is a form of "Import Session Data" feature from PT (very powerful).
Maybe in v3?
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Regarding #4, you can "Save as Version" from the file menu. That also gives you a small notation box to describe what that version is. The only downside to versions; once you open a previous version, that becomes the working version. Can't be used to compare mixes and such, which is kind of a downer. It is more of a historical CYA in the event something happens.

I agree that the use of the StudioLives as a control surface would be awesome. That being said, the faders do not respond to midi, and are not motorized. The cost to change the encoders would most likely blow out the low prices of the mixers.

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bredo wrote:But one thing missing in Studio One is a form of "Import Session Data" feature from PT (very powerful).
Maybe in v3?


I miss this in every single DAW, except the Pro Tools. This is awesome feature!
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Hey David,

Don't forget to check out the videos which show all kinds of tips & tricks as well.

Admittedly, I myself need to watch a number of them still.

If you do miss any of the live webinars, they will be available afterwards in the video section.

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...I have a 16.4.2 and if you could daisy chain two of those together...

I also have a 16.4.2 and apparently you can daisy chain these together.
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...as for number one you can expand the mixer into its own window by clickin the maximize buton in the mixer inspector window...

Very cool for many of us that use 2 or even 3 monitors now, as I do.

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