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Ok well saying it is an art not putting in bread and butter expected features, not sure how to take that, so i will just leave it and not FR anything else at this point

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Dayumit Jonathan, my mind probe is out of commission.

Thanks for chiming in. Do we have a guesstimation on a release for the 1.63 patch? Will the patch also include anything code wise besides the windows 7 installation fix?

Thanks.

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dezacrator wrote:Dayumit Jonathan, my mind probe is out of commission.

Thanks for chiming in. Do we have a guesstimation on a release for the 1.63 patch? Will the patch also include anything code wise besides the windows 7 installation fix?

Thanks.

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jonathan wrote:You will see many 'basic' gaps to be filled in v2.0, things you would expect, as well as some needs fulfilled that you didn't even know you had. I like to paraphrase Henry Ford to summarize my personal take on all this: "If I'd given people what they asked for, I'd have given them a faster horse."


Thats a great tease, Jonathan, and the best use of a quotation I've heard in a long time. From my vantage point, I'm really grateful that we have some of the smartest minds in audio (the PreSonus gang) working on this stuff, and doing so from a mind-set that says lets not just do something for the sake of doing it, let's truly innovate and change the game for everyone by creating and refining tools that help us work smarter.
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I think it is great that Jonathan chimed in and gave us a little insight. It is very disappointing though that some users criticize due to irresponsible speculation about what's to come. This is the exact reason that these software vendors don't say a peep about what's to come.

Instead of offering up coments based on speculation, why don't we just be thankful that Presonus is willing to talk.

That's my 2 cents.
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NAS wrote:Ok well saying it is an art not putting in bread and butter expected features, not sure how to take that, so i will just leave it and not FR anything else at this point

NAS


Hey NAS, I'm not sure I got my point across so well. Any FR's from you are most welcome, your reputation for valuable info precedes you by way of users that know you from other forums. If I put you off at all, I sincerely apologize.

With respect to 'bread and butter', that list of features looks different depending on the user. We've made these lists, and when you combine them all and you're literally starting from scratch like we were, suddenly you've got an impossibly long list...we had to make decisions on what we could get to right away, and what we needed to get to later. Also, we weren't willing to compromise the quality of our solutions in any way just to have something 'covered'. Couple that with the real need for innovation, and there's a LOT of work to do.

This results in the viewpoint from some users that we lack very basic items, and I can see how it's hard to understand how we passed over these things. In time, you'll see these gaps filled in, as you have with our many updates within the first year of release (literally hundreds of items).

The 'art' of it comes in where we're balancing our resources, FR's, the desire to innovate, stability, multiple platforms, market shifts, etc. I didn't mean that come across as snobby or anything- I actually do consider it an art- I think our team has been artful in managing these aspects and I respect them greatly for it.
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No worries , I will just lay off and let you guys get on with it, See what happens
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Jonathan wrote:Hey NAS, I'm not sure I got my point across so well. Any FR's from you are most welcome, your reputation for valuable info precedes you by way of users that know you from other forums. If I put you off at all, I sincerely apologize.

With respect to 'bread and butter', that list of features looks different depending on the user. We've made these lists, and when you combine them all and you're literally starting from scratch like we were, suddenly you've got an impossibly long list...we had to make decisions on what we could get to right away, and what we needed to get to later. Also, we weren't willing to compromise the quality of our solutions in any way just to have something 'covered'. Couple that with the real need for innovation, and there's a LOT of work to do.

This results in the viewpoint from some users that we lack very basic items, and I can see how it's hard to understand how we passed over these things. In time, you'll see these gaps filled in, as you have with our many updates within the first year of release (literally hundreds of items).

The 'art' of it comes in where we're balancing our resources, FR's, the desire to innovate, stability, multiple platforms, market shifts, etc. I didn't mean that come across as snobby or anything- I actually do consider it an art- I think our team has been artful in managing these aspects and I respect them greatly for it.



HUH...Jonathan? No way, no way, no hip hopping waaaaaay. NAS was just being difficult. I think a 6 month ban should be about right... no actually delete his account instead


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Thanks Jonathan for chiming in. I seriously don't understand why NAS is so upset about! I will take any bit of info from the team I can.
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AudioCave wrote:
dezacrator wrote:The whole doomsday 2012 is still in beta testing. Who knows, it might crash
Best,


Or maybe it only runs on Pluto XP.


i don't care if it's supported anymore or not. i won't give up my pluto.



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jobol wrote:Thanks Jonathan for chiming in. I seriously don't understand why NAS is so upset about! I will take any bit of info from the team I can.


Seriously
That is not me upset
I have been told by a lot of users since that the whole idea behind Studio One is not to have an advanced DAW capable of editing heavily but to have a DAW that anyone with no previous knowledge can pick up and use.
So i have stopped adding FRs to the forum for that specific reason
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Well for me, the GUI and workflow a great, the main thing a modern DAW needs imo is the ability to accurately manipulate audio, Cubase is good at this, but the rest of C6 is a pile of crap. My FR list begins and ends with that.

Here's hoping

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jobol wrote:
I have been told by a lot of users since that the whole idea behind Studio One is not to have an advanced DAW capable of editing heavily but to have a DAW that anyone with no previous knowledge can pick up and use.



I truly hope this is not true. I actually cannot imagine this being the case, otherwise Presonus' marketing of Studio one PRO is pretty misleading. There are already in my personal opinion many "pro" features that some of my other "pro" DAWs don't have implemented as of yet. There's already redbook and mp3 conversion, how long have I waited just for those two things from a few of my other mainstream software.

I personally hope that S1 is moving in the more polarizing direction of making S1 Artist be for artists and S1 Pro being truly for those in the industry needing a greater toolset. Currently I can't see how anyone could survive using Artist.. things may have changed, but not having VST/AU support is sort of a ridiculous limiting distinction between the two. No Artist could use effectively a DAW without those, and no other "ligth" DAW version has that limitation (with the exception of Reason of course.

So I hope that S1 continues to develop along the crystal clear audio and stability that many have experienced here.. and that it still remains as easy to use as Ableton.. if not quicker. I truly hope the toolsets increase.. another huge plug here for a matrix/ableton-esque beat/element sketchpad and a beefed up Impakt, but I hope those new or expanded tools never compromise the ease and nimble feel of Studio One.

Another option would simply just have options to see what tools you need to see. If you don't know how to use them or what they are for, hide them till you do or until you need them.

big~C

btw everyone, I just an iPad and am now using the AC-7 core Mackie emulation App and it is stellar. It has a Studio One preset built in and works great (for all those novation and euphonix users without support... the iPad v. 1 is being sold pretty cheap).

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what do you expect to be better in 2.0 than it would be if the version number was 1.7 or 1.8?
just numbers - go, make good music
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kingsx wrote:what do you expect to be better in 2.0 than it would be if the version number was 1.7 or 1.8?
just numbers - go, make good music


I expect a whole lot!

And I'll use it to make good music, like I am now, only quicker! :b
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