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NickWeiland
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NickWeiland wrote:i would like to ask about the saving and auto save. is this a fix for the auto save pulling focus? as in when it saves it brings its attention to the auto save and distracts you from what your doing. is that fixed with the new ara coding?


anyone?
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Thomas wrote:
dgkenney wrote:
hibidy wrote:If it's reproducible and undesired, it's a bug.



By that standard my next door neighbor has a couple running around his backyard.

Dan


This made my day.

Thanks Dan

That was a good one Dan!
Sorry I missed this more reasonable discussion, I was more in shock of the same thread name but different post.
Here is a link I posted in the past if you want to know how to determine if it is a bug or misunderstanding.
http://forumsarchive.presonus.com/posts/list/41453.page

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NickWeiland wrote:
NickWeiland wrote:i would like to ask about the saving and auto save. is this a fix for the auto save pulling focus? as in when it saves it brings its attention to the auto save and distracts you from what your doing. is that fixed with the new ara coding?


anyone?

Not sure why people don't just run the update and see if an issue is fixed, but auto-save is so fast now I have not detected it interrupting or pulling focus in my testing. I have even set it to a ridiculous levels like ever 30 seconds and I don't notice it.
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I think I understand why people don't like my definition. I don't thinks it's bad. We can argue semantics all day about it, but if the behavior wasn't intended (like if you hit cntrl+b and the tracks changed color) that would be a bug. How hard it is to keep up with bugs doesn't mean it's not a bug.

I feel the need to resolve this, bear with me.

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jpettit wrote:
NickWeiland wrote:
NickWeiland wrote:i would like to ask about the saving and auto save. is this a fix for the auto save pulling focus? as in when it saves it brings its attention to the auto save and distracts you from what your doing. is that fixed with the new ara coding?


anyone?

Not sure why people don't just run the update and see if an issue is fixed, but auto-save is so fast now I have not detected it interrupting or pulling focus in my testing. I have even set it to a ridiculous levels like ever 30 seconds and I don't notice it.


because if you have a project in an older version and the new one has bugs or problems it might screw up your project.
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dan.thorp97 wrote:After updating to Studio one Artist 2.6.2, it stopped working on my computer. It keeps saying that the computer is now de-registered, even though my account on the Presonus website says it is. I unregistered it and re registered but it keeps saying it!

What do i do?


Same exact thing happened to me????

Has anyone resolved this issue yet?
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hibidy wrote:I feel the need to resolve this, bear with me.

It's resolved H. Whenever it's clearly semantics it doesn't matter at all.

Some things are clearly bugs. If you can do X, Y and Z and crash or freeze S1, bug. Many things are very clear like that. Some other things sometimes maybe aren't that clear or obvious at all.

I think what happens sometimes is that some will superimpose their logical processes onto others and come to the conclusion that what they think about a particular thing or process makes so much sense that if it's not doing that, it has to be a bug, because no reasonable person would disagree with them on that, so it has to be a bug.

But... not really.

Sometimes things we see that we think should work or behave a certain way and seem slightly illogical or whatever are designed to work exactly as they are, and the person who designed it simply doesn't agree with our view about that... see fader undo... and some automation "bugs" that really aren't bugs... but more just easily agreeable "logical inconsistencies" that can be resolved with updates.

In those cases the logical disagreement and/or logical inconsistency becomes an FR... "I think it should work this way."

But yeah, if something is clearly "broken", not working correctly as outlined in the manual, I'd call it a bug.

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How about the bug that doesn't even let you run the program anymore...

I had to uninstall the software completely and go back to the original 2.00 which cost me losing some data that I had for sound fills.

Hey at least you guys can use Studio One right now, So I can't complain about updates yet
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jordan41084 wrote:How about the bug that doesn't even let you run the program anymore...

I had to uninstall the software completely and go back to the original 2.00 which cost me losing some data that I had for sound fills.

Hey at least you guys can use Studio One right now, So I can't complain about updates yet


Usually those messages about the product authorization happen when something is changed in your setup. For example, if you disable your network card and authorize the computer, when you enable it again the computer ID will change so S1 won't be authorized anymore. Could it be the case?
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hibidy wrote:(...) if the behavior wasn't intended (...) that would be a bug. (...)

Yes.

See, it's desired (by you or me) versus intended (by the developer), like LMike (and others) pointed out. You may call this semantics, I call it a significant difference.
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Kahlbert wrote:
hibidy wrote:(...) if the behavior wasn't intended (...) that would be a bug. (...)

Yes.

See, it's desired (by you or me) versus intended (by the developer), like LMike (and others) pointed out. You may call this semantics, I call it a significant difference.

True. It's only really relevant as relates to basic fairness. That goes for every software developer, not just S1 developers, and not just the daw you happen to like this year. It's really unfair to developers in general when people create flawed bad perceptions of software by calling everything they don't like bugs. I actually saw a person (who shall remain unnamed) say he personally found over 200 bugs in S1.

That's just... well... kinda wrong in general ... and really not fair, especially if the result of that flawed perception being forwarded has a direct impact on a working person's income.

OTOH, if a thing really and truly and factually is buggy as all get out, it is what it is and calling a pig a pig isn't really wrong imo.

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How is the new bass cabinet? I'm thinking about buying the metal addon only for that, if it is any good. Anyone tried it?
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dr4kan wrote:Usually those messages about the product authorization happen when something is changed in your setup. For example, if you disable your network card and authorize the computer, when you enable it again the computer ID will change so S1 won't be authorized anymore. Could it be the case?


Thanks for the reply on this topic. I have not messed with the network card or any of my network settings. The only thing I remove from my laptop on a regular basis is the CD drive to install my secondary battery in its slot. Also, when I had to reactivate the disc version wouldn't it have had the same problem? This is why I think it's the update and not on my end.

I haven't changed anything and have virtually tried everything from online to offline activation and even deactivating my computer manually. The site says its active, but when I try to activate it says to manage activations because the computer has been deactivated. Basically it's just taking me in circles by loading Studio One, then I activate, and it takes me right back to the activation screen due to the issue. I'm really anxious to see the update, but just glad I was able to get the old version working again for now. Hoping to here from a Mod friend about it today because Presonus is not taking phone calls and my past 2 support tickets when unanswered.

Anyways, thanks for some info on what it could be. I will go through a system restore if I feel it is necessary.
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- All 41 of my guitars have a name...
- "Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react"
- This is the part where I would normally name all of my equipment, but don't have the time to go through 3 storage units to take inventory. Not a hoarder or collector, Just a gear junkie that has to have it right now ha ha...
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LMike wrote:
Kahlbert wrote:
hibidy wrote:(...) if the behavior wasn't intended (...) that would be a bug. (...)

Yes.

See, it's desired (by you or me) versus intended (by the developer), like LMike (and others) pointed out. You may call this semantics, I call it a significant difference.

True. It's only really relevant as relates to basic fairness. That goes for every software developer, not just S1 developers, and not just the daw you happen to like this year. It's really unfair to developers in general when people create flawed bad perceptions of software by calling everything they don't like bugs. I actually saw a person (who shall remain unnamed) say he personally found over 200 bugs in S1.

That's just... well... kinda wrong in general ... and really not fair, especially if the result of that flawed perception being forwarded has a direct impact on a working person's income.

OTOH, if a thing really and truly and factually is buggy as all get out, it is what it is and calling a pig a pig isn't really wrong imo.



(and the other point LMike made)

I don't know what to say. I believe that if something isn't performing as it's intended, it's not desirable, therefor it's a bug. I have never and will never say that just because software doesn't do what I want, that it's buggy.

Anyways, as it stands, 2.6.2 is not necessary and I'm currently happy with 2.6.1.
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I hear ya. Not a whole lot there as is typical in x.x1 updates. The increased speed of autosave may be worth it for some though but maybe nothing to hurry to update for for some.

I always update (or rather, install the new version) just because it's so easy to also keep the previous version running. I would think (haven't tested it though) that backward song compatibility might only be an issue on larger version updates, not sure though.

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