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The ONE thing I hate about Studio One 2!
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koushks
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Anybody?
If there is no way it can be done with macros, I'll post a feature request.
NickWeiland
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couldnt s1 detect wether a plugin/mutli timbral instrument/ stereo/mono track was used? and label accordingly? something like a popup would come if you had multi outs from something like bfd2 saying do you want to rename your tracks in the mixer or leave them all as drums? that would be useful. and the rest could just be linked from arrange to the mixer. like everyone wants.
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Sure they could add that NickWeiland. Not a bad idea. I suspect the trouble is as life goes, there would be as many people complaining "how do I turn that damn thing off" as much as what we're left with now. 

The more speciality that goes in, the more manageability has to go in. If Presonus realize this is a genuine aid for us users then they'll implement a nice feature set where options to auto name, sync to mixer order, or as you say, "pop up" and even to defeat any/all options if necessary.
 
This seams very reasonable. We don't want fat though either. Just enough to allow a little auto track/mixer management. 

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, having it all linked would perhaps make it possible for a real duplicate function too.
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I agree with the OP - this arrange view&mixer view and track naming mess needs to be sorted out ASAP. It gets even worse when you move tracks in&out of the folder or you try to rearrange them. Totally pi@#$ me off.
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This issue - and yes, for me it's an issue - is still in existence.
Can you please do something about it?

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I definitely struggle trying to keep not only names synced but also track orders between the ordinary tracks and the console when using folders. Sometimes it just gets ape-sh** confusing when I move things around and it winds up in other folders or in some far end of the mixer.

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Seems to me this is in the top 5 most requested.
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I just saw something for the first time over the weekend. If you are moving tracks and pause and hover, it will tell you if it's going into a folder or out of a folder. At least that's a bit easier now. Guess I was always in too much of a hurry to notice lol
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i really can't believe how LAZY people have become in this world... in EVERYTHING!!! what does it take... 5 secs to name a track? i am sorry... but this is really pathetic. another example of the NOW generation! next you'll want your phone to automatically take selfies! lmao

i am not trying to be an ass... it just comes naturally.

i don't like having to feed myself... maybe someone from presonus will come do it for me! lol

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I think what you have to understand is that if you rename/color a track, the corresponding track should match in the console. It's not really a good workflow to have to go back in and rename all the tracks especially when tracks in the console have abbreviated front-end tracks where you are like "HUN?" How do I find which one?

It's not as bad with audio as it is with midi.

I'm a simple person, I come from a simple mind. If you change the track, the console should mirror it. Is that really being lazy?
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yeah but was pointed out that with multi out instruments you would have to rename all them anyways! so it is six of one half a dozen of the other. and yea i do find it is lazy! it only takes a sec to remedy.

now i would like it to change colors as i change them in either place but that is picking... i had to change it to start and again it only takes a sec.

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Just to make you aware of different people and different music-genres...

If you're a producer working mostly with recorded audio tracks and sample libraries with multi-out support, then I can fully understand your opinion. But that's a very narrow assumption as there are a lot of different genres, toolsets and workflow-approaches...

I'm producing electronic music - more precisely: trance - and I'm probably using up to 20 or 30 single-out VSTi's. Out of 30 Plugins i'm using, maybe 2 or 3 have the capability of being multi-out, which doesn't even mean, that I'm also making use out of it. I actually don't care about this one or two cases, where I'd have to color and rename my tracks, but I do care about the other 30.

However, I really hope Presonus' target is to be the best DAW on the market. Therefore they should care about each unnecessary mouseclick, regardless of how picky it may sound. If there are ways - and there are - why not?

Why are you even bothered with people asking for something?

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Btw. I just crossgraded from Cubase 7.5 and finding this kind of thing lacking is ridiculous. Especially if it's so basic and was raised a couple of YEARS ago (as you can tell from the creation date of this thread). Nevertheless, I'm happy about changing to Studio One.

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Not trying to minimize the request, but I use any where from 15 to about 30 channels, and roughly the same on tracks, and I just don't have any issues. At least that I've had to complain or request this. Btw, about half to two thirds of my track counts are not audio but instruments, from BFD drums, Komplete, Reason (rewired with many instruments), etc. etc. etc.

Hey, you guys want/need it? Fine. Hope you get it. It's not impeding on my flow. At least it better not.
Even Reason rewired, the channels and tracks (always in order of the track/channels btw), show the instrument, and duplicate instruments have a numerical suffix added (XXX1, XXX2, XXX3). If I wish to alter that because maybe I just want to call it a Bass Pad, I type it in. Done, I move on.

I type in what I need and press on. I don't think genres need to be explained either, as a Jazz quartet could have as much going on as anything else. Seems EDM users feel they need to project some sort of complexity distinction over other forms, but I also creating EDM, Jazz, Progressive and film work, I get a chuckle at the commentary just the same.

If I feel cheated out of Presonus not adding a feature like this, I can always remember putting tape across the console for studio or live performance situations and grabbing a pen or a Sharpie.

I also don't see this being most or all of the time, a problematic condition as some have tried to make it out. To be fair, maybe their workflow dictates it.

...but hey, if it's that important to you..........go for it.

Just keeping the piece, but checking the box that some just don't really care, because it doesn't crop up all that much for some users.

Still, I think Presonus will add this feature to keep checks and balances in a row. As mentioned somewhere, it should be fairly easy to do.
I sort of remind myself at times that all of the "fairly easy to do's" all added up result in a DAW that get's slower, less stable, and those other "gotcha's" that took me from PT, Cubase, Reaper, etc.

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Seems EDM users feel they need to project some sort of complexity distinction over other forms, but I also creating EDM, Jazz, Progressive and film work, I get a chuckle at the commentary just the same.


It seems like you didn't get the context, but I'm really proud of you now.
As someone here refused to understand the issue, I just wanted to point out that I'm using almost no multi-out instruments and just a few audio tracks - this goes for almost all EDM-genres - and not that I'm a cool guy because I produce the holy-grail (Trance) and should be treated like a superstar. Someone who uses Studio One also for recording purposes (Rock/Metal/Jazz - you get it), might have a much bigger emphasis on audio tracks. If you don't share this opinion, that's your thing.

By the way:
Two colleagues of mine, one who already uses it regularly, the other one who is currently checking out the 30-days trial (thinking of buying it), are also annoyed by this behavior.

Actually, I've been warned about this fact before i bought it...
You see?
It has at least enough importance to bring up that issue.
People "warn" you and put this as a contra to potential buyers.


Lokeyfly wrote:Not trying to minimize the request [...]
If I wish to alter that because maybe I just want to call it a Bass Pad, I type it in. Done, I move on. [...]


But you did.


Lokeyfly wrote:
At least that I've had to complain or request this. [...]
Hey, you guys want/need it? Fine. [...]
...but hey, if it's that important to you..........go for it. [...]


I really don't get why you kept writing and writing after each and every "fine, go for it"-statement.

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