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bobbybland
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Loaded up Cubase 7 today, and I found it's very cluttered vs S1, whatever you do Presonus, please continue to keep it simple. Really thought I'd like C7 ,but there's nothing touching Studio One in the DAW world. in my opinion.

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Daw stew wrote:This is why Studio One is better than cubase
https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/knowledgebase_new/show_details/kb_show/cubase-7-known-issues/kb_back/2020.html

No plug ins that are before VST 2.4 are compatible, neither are Ilok 1 plugs. Anyone remember how they didn't tell users they were dropping support for direct x plugs.


Excellent point. And you can add Steinberg's own HOUSTON Controller to that list. Steinberg has one and only one agenda: Make as much money from the same idiots, er , people, just as often as you can. Kind of like Microsoft that way...
I think...therefore I use Studio One...
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Harsh but true
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another cubase 6,5 user here. the soft is okay, but i'm more the simple workflow type, so i'm slowly on the transfer for studio one as well. good job presonus, keep up the good job and keep it simple! big like!
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So here is one of those old timer "I started on Dr. T on the Atari back when we pedaled bicycles to make electricity" comments:

StudioOne is the most productive environment to come along in a very long time for me. As someone who has a day job, wife, two kids, and a lotta stuff to do NOT related to making music, the fact that I can come back to S1Pro after putting it down for a couple of weeks AND STILL CRANK OUT A PROJECT WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND UMPTEEN HOURS RELEARNING EVERYTHING is huge. I can say unequivocally that with DP, CUBASE, and to a lesser extent LOGIC this is not the case. I've used all of those a lot. (I tend to be a serial monogamist with my DAWs focusing and using one primarily for a year or two at a time.) They are all quite good and excel in many (different) areas. But they have evolved and become quite complex. Their workflows (ESPECIALLY CUBASE IMHO) have become quite complex. Within their respective user communities and among those who use these tools everyday, this isn't a problem. But for aspirants such as myself who aren't there yet (but are trying to join the club), this complexity represents a real barrier as it impacts negatively the limited productive time available.

Time is our most precious commodity, and StudioOne Pro gives me more time for the creative side of things.

For my personal interests (music to picture) S1Pro is still a little immature (which is why I keep DP on my hard drive). I am hoping they continue to evolve its capabilities a bit more in that area. But I realize that may not be in the cards and can live with the basic functionality that is there now given my projects and requirements.
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music IS my day job. so technically speaking, that makes me a pro. so the statements i made in earlier post stand. if you use something every day and have any kind of ability, you will get good at it and be as fast as the guy in earlier post who reached 100 mph!
best daw is whatever works for you. i have clients who only ever use fl loops and to them ANYTHING else (including studio one) would seem cumbersome and overly complicated!
there is a quote from Spartacus that i wll use to hopefully end this (impossible to prove one way or another) topic.
scene; all the gladiators are drinking and arguing about where the "best" wine comes from. Spartacus says "you're ALL wrong. the best wine comes from home, wherever it is". Daws are like wine. we get attached to them and defend them or hate them more than we should. it's all tools in the end.
signing off now. I'm Spartacus!
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nk_e wrote:So here is one of those old timer "I started on Dr. T on the Atari back when we pedaled bicycles to make electricity" comments:

StudioOne is the most productive environment to come along in a very long time for me. As someone who has a day job, wife, two kids, and a lotta stuff to do NOT related to making music, the fact that I can come back to S1Pro after putting it down for a couple of weeks AND STILL CRANK OUT A PROJECT WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND UMPTEEN HOURS RELEARNING EVERYTHING is huge. I can say unequivocally that with DP, CUBASE, and to a lesser extent LOGIC this is not the case. I've used all of those a lot. (I tend to be a serial monogamist with my DAWs focusing and using one primarily for a year or two at a time.) They are all quite good and excel in many (different) areas. But they have evolved and become quite complex. Their workflows (ESPECIALLY CUBASE IMHO) have become quite complex. Within their respective user communities and among those who use these tools everyday, this isn't a problem. But for aspirants such as myself who aren't there yet (but are trying to join the club), this complexity represents a real barrier as it impacts negatively the limited productive time available.

Time is our most precious commodity, and StudioOne Pro gives me more time for the creative side of things.

For my personal interests (music to picture) S1Pro is still a little immature (which is why I keep DP on my hard drive). I am hoping they continue to evolve its capabilities a bit more in that area. But I realize that may not be in the cards and can live with the basic functionality that is there now given my projects and requirements.

Every Presonus employee should have this printed and pinned on their desk.
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every new release of software has bugs. refer to studio one v2.5 for further clarification!
no need to visit kvr for a list of problems , just look around here.
can i ask why people seem to need to prove that what they use is better than the other guy? i'm guilty of it myself sometimes, but it is pointless! use what you have. if you like it, great. if don't like it, buy something else.
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For me anyway, none of the issues in S1 2.5 are show-stoppers. That can't be said for Cubase 7. Some of the problems at this point render it unusable.
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can i ask why people seem to need to prove that what they use is better than the other guy? i'm guilty of it myself sometimes, but it is pointless! use what you have. if you like it, great. if don't like it, buy something else.

It's basic human psychology. Humans always "group" and create "tribes" and define "other groups". It's always been that way with humans since the first group of cave people shared a cave. It's just way more immediately noticeable on the Internet than it is in real life.

The article linked below explains it all pretty darn well.

The Illusion of Asymmetric Insight
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no. MY illusion of assymetric insight is better and faster than yours, with better workflow! i am bang-on trend! (just learned that phrase today in the pub!)

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There was another really good article that went into some depth about the idea of software being "intuitive". If I can find it again I'll post it later.

Basically, the premise was that a thing itself actually can't be "intuitive", only that certain groups of users can perceive it as being intuitive if the designers target certain users or certain skill sets. It went into some detail about the various software design concepts to define a good user range to target to make an app feel somewhat intuitive for a certain larger percentage of potential users based on some implied skill sets and previous experiences, etc, etc.

It also went into cases (like with some well known Web Stores) where certain things are intentionally designed to not be "intuitive", like finding an actual support phone number because some of those web shops actually don't want you calling their support number, they want you digging through the help docs instead so they don't have to hire more people to man the phones. So they intentionally make finding the support number a bit more of a hassle... while making finding the support docs feel more "intuitive".

It was a really, really enlightening article.
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nk_e wrote: Time is our most precious commodity, and StudioOne Pro gives me more time for the creative side of things.


Agree.
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Reading the Steinberg forum and the cubase 7 kvr thread I'm reminded of the bad times with cubase. Plug ins crashing when cubase scans for them. Instability and uncertainty at opening a project. The users have my sympathy.
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