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2cthetruth
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The Music, I went back to my mix and tried to listen to what you pointed out to me, but to be honest can't hear the flange or chorus sound coming from the drums. To be honest, I have nothing on the drums but a compressor, eq, and a subtle reverb that was applied to the whole mix. I'm thinking it's got to be my listening environment.

Again, thanks for the feedback.
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Hello all, I hope more people plan on doing these mixes, great practice anyway!

Here's my final version of "Sing With Me." Hope you like!

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Here's my first mixdown of "Sing with me"

Regards!

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Wow. These mixes are really starting to sound awesome!!! Nice work guys. Hopefully I can get one done here soon.

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2cthetruth wrote:The Music, I went back to my mix and tried to listen to what you pointed out to me, but to be honest can't hear the flange or chorus sound coming from the drums. To be honest, I have nothing on the drums but a compressor, eq, and a subtle reverb that was applied to the whole mix. I'm thinking it's got to be my listening environment.

Again, thanks for the feedback.


It's not an issue. It's tough to relay what one hears sometimes. no offense intended.

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2cthetruth
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Hopefully the mixes keep coming in!

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themuzic wrote:
2cthetruth wrote:The Music, I went back to my mix and tried to listen to what you pointed out to me, but to be honest can't hear the flange or chorus sound coming from the drums. To be honest, I have nothing on the drums but a compressor, eq, and a subtle reverb that was applied to the whole mix. I'm thinking it's got to be my listening environment.

Again, thanks for the feedback.


It's not an issue. It's tough to relay what one hears sometimes. no offense intended.



No offense taken!! I thank you for your feedback anyway and all the work you put into teaching us. It really helps!
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Calling Gizzmo..I was wondering if there are professionally mixed/mastered versions of these songs, and if you could put them in the initial post so everybody has something to reference? Mike and DuckieTheAnk mixes are coming through very "mid rangy" on my monitors and I could just imagine how my mix must sound on theirs...probably not good! If we had something to reference to make sure were somewhat "on target," mixes might translate better. I hope I'm making sense.
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2cthetruth wrote:Calling Gizzmo..I was wondering if there are professionally mixed/mastered versions of these songs, and if you could put them in the initial post so everybody has something to reference? Mike and DuckieTheAnk mixes are coming through very "mid rangy" on my monitors and I could just imagine how my mix must sound on theirs...probably not good! If we had something to reference to make sure were somewhat "on target," mixes might translate better. I hope I'm making sense.


I don't know that they're necessarily professionally mixed and mastered but I did add preview mixes of each song to the first post which were pulled from Mike Senior's website. Mike Senior is an editor at Sound on Sound magazine most well known for his Mix Rescue articles. The preview mixes were done by him. Whether or not you like them, however, is completely subjective.

One thing I that might help also. is trying to find a few reference tracks for the song your mixing. For example. I think the woman's voice in "Come Around" has a lot of similar qualities as Imogen Heap's voice, and so I've used a few of her tracks as a reference for that type of sound.

Also, I've updated the first post with the newest added mixes. More to come I'm sure! I'll be adding mine to the list shortly as well.

- Gizz

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Maybe you can locate Mike Senior's "rescue" mixes for those songs as a comparison... dunno. I don't particularly like my mix (I think I can do better) but I'm leaving it alone.

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LMike wrote:Maybe you can locate Mike Senior's "rescue" mixes for those songs as a comparison... dunno. I don't particularly like my mix (I think I can do better) but I'm leaving it alone.


http://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms-mtk.htm here's the library. There are roughmixes/mixes for allmost all songs!
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Sonalksis SV-315 MkII Compressor
Fabfilter Pro-Q, Pro-C, Pro-L
Focusrite Liquid Mix
PSP MasterComp
Izotope Alloy & Ozone 4
Waves Musicians 2, H-EQ, Kramer Mastertape, Q-Clone, Lo-Air, RBass.
Native Instruments: Guitar Rig 5 and Vintage Compressors.
Audio Damage Eos
Nomad Factory Magnetic & Echo
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Native Instruments: Komplete 8, Scarbee J-Bass, Session Strings, 70ies Drums, Modern Drums, Funk Guitarist,
Superior Drummer 2.0
Loads more!
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Awesome, thanks guys.
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LMike wrote: I don't particularly like my mix (I think I can do better) but I'm leaving it alone.


I know what you mean. Now that I listen to my versions after taking a break, I want to fix some things! My mix of "sing with me" needs a drop in the 2k area and the claps need to come down a bit cause when I listen to it, my ears scream for mercy.

Lesson to others mixing one of these songs... get a mix done, walk away for awhile, come back, fix, repeat. In my case, ear fatigue got the best of me. What sounded good yesterday, sounded good yesterday.

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2cthetruth wrote:
LMike wrote: I don't particularly like my mix (I think I can do better) but I'm leaving it alone.


I know what you mean. Now that I listen to my versions after taking a break, I want to fix some things! My mix of "sing with me" needs a drop in the 2k area and the claps need to come down a bit cause when I listen to it, my ears scream for mercy.

Lesson to others mixing one of these songs... get a mix done, walk away for awhile, come back, fix, repeat. In my case, ear fatigue got the best of me. What sounded good yesterday, sounded good yesterday.


If you want to, submit a second version, I'll tack it on with the others and see what changes you make after having a break and re-listening.

It is very good advice indeed to give yourself some time away from a mix. It "resets" your biases that you might have missed while in the heat of the mixing moment.
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Ok, this is my last attempt as I really have been putting off the books and need to study. So much fun this is in the words of Yoda. I could tweak and tweak, but just don't have time.

This mix will spare your ears, but still a little harsh!

On a side note, please, if you listen to the mixes, leave a comment as that is a good way we can improve.. or try to compensate for crappy listening environments

Thank you Gizz for starting this "group mix" as this is what it all boils down to (trying to achieve a great mix). You can have all of the tools and gadgets to record, edit, and manipulate, but if you can't put together a mix that is pleasing to yourself and others, those tools are nothing more than expensive toys. So I encourage anyone who owns S1 to give this opportunity to learn and compare/get feedback a shot.

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