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Jan-Arend Blok
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Jan-Arend Blok wrote:
Monolithent wrote:Jan
Do you have to buy them in pairs to use as an in-ear setup or do they come that way?

[color=blue]One set is one transmitter and one receiver


I think I want to grab a pair of them to test before I make a big plunge and grab a bunch.

Any idea how many can work together at once?

Until now,I have had six sets of them working at once, plus my Studiolive 16.4.2 with the iPad mixer on. No problems whatsoever. I use an Airport Express for the MacbookPro-iPad connection.

Any idea how they play with WiFi based mic systems like Line-6 XD-v70?

Good question, I don't know. You have Line 6 mics I believe?

I know its a lot of questions but I like knowing ahead of time.


Hope this helps for you.

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Very helpful. Thanks a ton.

I'm contacting my folks on them tomorrow.
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Wow, looks attractive! If nothing else, I may pick up a set to use as a wireless cue system when out on the floor with the iPad! Now if only we had SOLO buttons in SL Remote...

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And a talkback button! That would justify picking up two sets of these little gadgets
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PhilG wrote:I still dont see how this is any different to running xlr to a headphone amp on the floor

is the only difference the guitar cable and headphone cable are wrapped together ?

wireless is the go - keep everything rack mounted - less cables, less connections and less hassle


I agree, I had Rolls headphone amp for the longest time with a 25' extension that ran up to my IEM's. At one point I got about 50 zip ties and melded my guitar cable to my headphone extension cable... very bad idea because the $2 extension cable eventually went bad and lost signal in one ear and I had to cut all those zip ties. I can see where this device would be more convenient since the guitar cable / headphone cable are one unit. I did, however, pay 1/4 of the cost of the Rock On Limiter for the Rolls headphone amp. I wish I would have known about this before I got my Rolls, seems like it would have been a good investment at the time.

I got a used IEM300 G2 and will never go back to wired. Sure, the wired sounds a little more clear, probably more reliable (unless you constantly step on your cable and unplug your ears altogether, which I did all the time), but the wireless system has preformed flawlessly. It sounds great, and hasn't had any issues.

Anyone looking into some amazing custom molded ears http://www.alienears.com has some great prices. $160 for single driver custom molded buds? You don't have to go to an audiologist either, they send you a really simple DIY impressions kit. I got the C3 Dual Low End Triple Drivers for $395 and as a bass player am very pleased. I highly recommend these guys even though they are super busy and it takes about 2 months to get your ears in.
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this is a good idea for wired guitar, or keyboard. But what about a singer with wireless mic? or wireless guitarist?
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ts-12 wrote:this is a good idea for wired guitar, or keyboard. But what about a singer with wireless mic? or wireless guitarist?


Check the OP's original post, second sentence

Probably not for those who are already wireless in any fashion.
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lostinsound wrote:
ts-12 wrote:this is a good idea for wired guitar, or keyboard. But what about a singer with wireless mic? or wireless guitarist?


Check the OP's original post, second sentence

Probably not for those who are already wireless in any fashion.



Exactly. As I mentioned, it's for the guitarist, bassists who doesn't want to lose their quality wired tone (which is so much better than wireless), but yet they'll feel like wireless in ears. If you're a singer that doesn't play an instrument, than it's not ideal for you.
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With regards to the Jangus WiFi solution, I would be concerned with the latency of the audio when using these for in-ear monitoring. I am a big line6 fan. At Sweetwater's Gearfest this year, I questioned the line6 rep and the Shure reps about why they haven't gone digital for the wireless in-ear monitors... .They both (independently) claimed the latency was too high...

That being said, for $200, I am likely going to try the Jangus solution out.

BTW, Presonus Rocks! My SL24 is still on backorder... they must be selling well!

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kkinerk wrote:With regards to the Jangus WiFi solution, I would be concerned with the latency of the audio when using these for in-ear monitoring. I am a big line6 fan. At Sweetwater's Gearfest this year, I questioned the line6 rep and the Shure reps about why they haven't gone digital for the wireless in-ear monitors... .They both (independently) claimed the latency was too high...

That being said, for $200, I am likely going to try the Jangus solution out.

BTW, Presonus Rocks! My SL24 is still on backorder... they must be selling well!

Keith


I was concerned with that a lot, as well as just the fact that for $200, I'm one of those people who usually feels like you get what you pay for. If you try them out, please post and let us know what you think.
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scottmckenna wrote:
kkinerk wrote:With regards to the Jangus WiFi solution, I would be concerned with the latency of the audio when using these for in-ear monitoring. I am a big line6 fan. At Sweetwater's Gearfest this year, I questioned the line6 rep and the Shure reps about why they haven't gone digital for the wireless in-ear monitors... .They both (independently) claimed the latency was too high...

That being said, for $200, I am likely going to try the Jangus solution out.

BTW, Presonus Rocks! My SL24 is still on backorder... they must be selling well!

Keith


I was concerned with that a lot, as well as just the fact that for $200, I'm one of those people who usually feels like you get what you pay for. If you try them out, please post and let us know what you think.


Yes, you'll get a certain amount of latency with these systems.
For singers, there's a very simple solution for this: jus give the singer some reverb in his ears, the latency will be gone. I play bass with the Jangus AudioLink and have monitor from a Jangus AudioStream. Took me ten minutes to get used to it. You won't hear latency playing in a band. And I do some singing too, so I know how it sounds.... For me no problems, maybe others can not work this way. I am very happy with the superb sound quality for my bass, singing and monitoring.
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That pretty much sums up another reason why I don't think I'll be leaving my in ears. I don't want to have to deal with latency anywhere, batteries, signals, etc. Going back to my first post of why I love WIRED, but like I said, and like others have noted, wired in ears aren't for everyone. However, I will say, I can guarantee you that you'll never hear clearer sounding in ears than my system. They sound amazing. Obviously depends on your in ears you're using in the first place regardless of the system, but wired is nice!
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scottmckenna wrote:That pretty much sums up another reason why I don't think I'll be leaving my in ears. I don't want to have to deal with latency anywhere, batteries, signals, etc. Going back to my first post of why I love WIRED, but like I said, and like others have noted, wired in ears aren't for everyone. However, I will say, I can guarantee you that you'll never hear clearer sounding in ears than my system. They sound amazing. Obviously depends on your in ears you're using in the first place regardless of the system, but wired is nice!



Believe me: wireless wifi is the same quality sound as wired.
In our band we use two Shure PSM400 receivers, one wired in-ear for the drummer via a Presonus HP4, and I use my Jangus AudioStream. Both the wired and Jangus sound the same. I like to test and hear all the systems we use, but I prefer the Jangus because of the wireless freedom and the great sound, especially for bass. But we all have different prefs for monitors, like the drummer with in-ears still wanting side-fills........ We use no amps on stage, the only sound coming from stage is our drummer. This gives us a clean sound, easy for monitor and for FOH. We can do an easy soundcheck with Capture tracks playing back and our drummer playing along with these tracks. This gives us a close idea of how we are going to sound.
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Yeah, I'm not too surprised. After purchasing a Line 6 XD-V70 system, I'm convinced that digital wireless is indistinguishable from wired in any live environment. I couldn't find any documentation on the amount of latency on the Jangus system; that's the only thing I would worry about. Does anyone know?

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lostinsound wrote:Yeah, I'm not too surprised. After purchasing a Line 6 XD-V70 system, I'm convinced that digital wireless is indistinguishable from wired in any live environment. I couldn't find any documentation on the amount of latency on the Jangus system; that's the only thing I would worry about. Does anyone know?


I guess I'd have to just use one side by side to truly listen. I personally have never found a wireless system in ANY price range that sounded as good as wired. BUT, then again, I've never used a Digital Wireless system. I'd be interested to try them for sure, I just don't feel like spending any more money right now on things . I'd love to hear more reviews about these Jangus systems though because that's the issue I'm running into. No one I know has ever heard of them, or used them, and online I don't see much about them.
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