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sunniesboy
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hello there anyone with experience in this area i will HIGHLY appreciate your advice...

i like to apologize in advance for the long message

im basically about to purchase a laptop for music recording, producing and my main daw will be studio one pro!

Ive been doing lots and lots and lots of research on this matter..

and i would appreciate some advice on which one to get being that im rolling with studione for life!!!!!

ok my options are around the 1500.00 dollar range and less

im a pc guy but i pretty much dont get involved with the mac vs pc thing....im pretty open if it works it works!

i can get a mbp i5 http://store.apple.com/us-hed/product/FC371LL/A?mco=MTgxMzM0MTE#overview
(heard alot of good things about the mbp of course)

custom pc laptop by adk http://www.adkproaudio.com/systems/viewsystem.cfm?recordid=119

custom pc laptop by sonicalabs.com d25-00 with i5 540 option

or i can do a off the shelf custom think pad t510 from lenovo.com with very good specs i5,7200 hd, 3yr warranty,4gb of ram 15.6 inch screen for 950.00( i have till sunday to get it at that price) but as you know the dpc latency of those can be a bit high maybe? anyone have one?
and its a pretty quality machine i tried to find users who use it for audio recording an did a review,etc... but no luck!

(even tho i read on gearslutz they are buit like tanks but really didnt give a good overall review) this is the only one i came up with
http://www.pc-music.com/content/lifting-lid-audio-laptops-part-2


what do you all think?

thanks in advance for your time






sunniesboy
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oh and also add to that list a macbook pro 13inch 2.4 base model... thanks
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all very nice options. i really like the thinkpad t-series and would rate them above macbook pros. you absolutely need to reinstall windows though. alls kinds of apps and drivers on there, and you need only about a third of them, and some of the others are bad for performance. finding out which to keep/reinstall is a hassle.
i think rodney got an adk and loves it. also these are rumoured to be among the best for audio.
i'd rather save a little more and get an i7 (instead of downgrading on general build quality there). cache-size matters (also i7 hyperthreading works well)
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Ok thanks... Only reason I chose the i5 is because as far as laptops ( mobile version the i5 is actually better the 620 to b exact and the 520,540, is also a nice performer) but on the desktop that's a diff ball game no i5 is faster from what I heard)

So as for a laptop and my needs I'm comfortable getting a i5 for my mobile rig...


So honestly which one would u get if u had a choice?? Of the 4 up there? Because I just found put sonica and adk is the same company!


Would u get the t-pad and deal with the hassle of re-installing? Try to get the dpc latency down?
If u read that review posted above u see the latency wasn't that bad from the jump.

Or will u just get a MacBook pro base or spend 600 extra and get the i5 or adk and just call it wonderful?

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I have a 2.4GHz MacBook (it's the 13.3" unibody, so it's essentially the same as the current 13.3" MB Pro) w/ 2GB of RAM and it performs quite well with Studio One. That said, if I were buying a brand new machine today I'd hold out for a more modern, higher performing i5 at the minimum and 4-8GB of RAM. Don't buy RAM from Apple, either. They've gotten better about HD sizes/upgrades, but they still stink on RAM

PC is a bang for the buck winner (IF you get a good one; it can also be a shoddy motherboard that creeps along behind similar specced machines); you'll pay a premium for a Mac, no doubt about it. But you won't have to reinstall OS X, you won't need to deal with drivers for PreSonus gear.

PC laptops are made by four companies; a lot of them are all the same model with different cases. i'm not sure who makes Apple's laptops, but it's probably one of those companies. I saw a very sexy ASUS with a MacBook Pro keyboard the other day

Personally, my next machine going to be whatever MacBook Pro 15" is out when i save up the money for it. I just like OS X, and I have several Mac-only programs I use every day that don't have a PC counterpart I like. Plus, I have Parallels and Boot Camp if I just have to have Windows at some point.
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sunniesboy
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Ok thanks... How many tracks are u getting?? Vsti??? Effects??
I'll probably at the most use 3-4 vsti at the same time b 4 bouncing to audio which takes secs which I LOVE about studioone...



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Be careful when choosing a laptop with built-in Firewire if your interface requires it. Some chipsets don't play well on the 1394 playground...
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Ok cool thanks... The only one that is suspect about FireWire is the think pad but the rear will all work...


Anyone else feel free to dive in...



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I've been working with a Toshiba M700, it is a bit older tablet, but the point is Toshiba make good laptops in the higher priced segment.

I don't think they've got FireWire on board anymore, but the Tecra S11-11G is a very decent laptop.
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I recall reading that Apple switched away from TI chipsets in their MacBook Pros for this generation Not really sure how well what's in the current ones perform.

As for tracks/effects, I'm currently building a techy trancey tune. At a similar point in Ableton Live, S1 is using 10-15% less CPU. Not really fair to Live since their sound engine is build for real-time use and thus requires more CPU, but yeah, I'm not disappointed by S1 in the producing stage of a track

Well here we go, this track has an instance of Nerve, 2 of Alchemy, 5 audio tracks and 3 MIDI tracks, with 8 insert compressors (sidechains fed by Nerve), 2 insert autofilters (one sidechained), a Groove Delay insert, and a CamelSpace insert. Then there is a Beat Delay, Aether, Room Reverb, and Compressor set up as Returns.

This eats up 40% CPU acording to S1's monitor, and down to 29% or so w/ out the instances of Alchemy. I'm also using 256 buffer, 24-bit and 44.1kHz.

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sunniesboy
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cool thanks...just found a good deal on a macbook pro 13 for 999.99 i have til the 15th to get that deal so still have a couple days to think about it...



anyone else? please dive in

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sunniesboy wrote:cool thanks...just found a good deal on a macbook pro 13 for 999.99 i have til the 15th to get that deal so still have a couple days to think about it...



anyone else? please dive in

peace


Another thing that was important to me (maybe not to you) is the trackpad. I almost never feel the need to use a mouse, and the thought of going to a laptop w/ out one is a major turn off. I'm a huge fan of minimal setups, and I can do most of what I need on the couch with just my MacBook and ATH-M50s Or if I go someplace, like the park or bookstore, I don't have a large setup time. Just open the lid, plug in the cans, and go. I'm a big fan of OS X's sleep functionality And after over a year of typing on it, the keys still look new. No fading, wearing, etc. I do a lot of writing on this machine, too.

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sunniesboy
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oh ok cool, what sound card do you use?
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Just some input on Mac Book Pro. It is very helpful to have the ExpressCard slot available. I don't think any 13" MBPs have this. Sometime last year Apple stopped putting the ExpressCard slot into the 15" MBPs switching to and SD card slot.

For my setup, I need the ExpressCard with a TI chipset FW adapter to get a solid, reliable connection to my Firestudio Project. I use the built in FW port to connect to a chain of external hard drives for recording. The built in FW is not TI and does not work reliably with Firewire interfaces.

I am using an early 2009 15" MBP. The 13" might work ok if you stick with a USB interface. I had pretty good luck with an M-Audio Fast Track Ultra with this computer. But overall, I am much happier with the Firestudio Project.

If you plan to record to the internal harddrive, then plan on upgrading to a 7200 RPM drive right away.
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thanks, yeah i was going to use a usb card...if i go with the mbp 13. but if i go with lets say the adk or t501 then i could use firewire.




dive in guys i really need your help in deciding!


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