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bluesilence
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Hello there,

i can't get my plug to by switched on/off =(

when i automate the ByPass parameter the light indocator works correctly (sometimes!! not always) but the effect is always ON. (The automated track is set as READ)

BUT -> The blue swith on the mixer is always ON i think this is the problem.

So, Is it possible to switch ON/OFF this blue "Activate" parameter ?

with all of my plugs (sonnox/softtube/soundtoys/brainworx...)

any idea?

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As you probably know, there's a couple of different ways to automate in S1.

Which way are you trying... Automation directly on the plugin channel?
Or running a separate dedicated automation channel, and then route it to the plugin/channel your wanting to automate?
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bypass will not switch off plugins. they will keep processing (discarding their output), so that they can be re-/de-activated without clicks. this may be different from other hosts.. use the blue switch to switch them off.
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eike wrote:bypass will not switch off plugins. they will keep processing (discarding their output), so that they can be re-/de-activated without clicks. this may be different from other hosts.. use the blue switch to switch them off.


Yep but how can i automate this blue switch??
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The blue switch cannot be automated, as it literally turns the plugs and all of their processing on/off...if you were to use this as a bypass, you would almost always get clicks in the audio signal when toggled. Use the dedicated bypass for automation.
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bluesilence
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ok the blue switch can't be automated and the bypass doesn't bypass the plug so?? what can i do?
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what do you want to do?

the bypass DOES bypass. it just does not DEACTIVATE. if this really does not bypass, you have found a bug.

what do you want automatated plugin-activation for? if you need to do housekeeping on performance i suggest first raising the buffersize to something like 1024 samples or more and optimizing the system.if that is not enough, automate the bypass and mixdown that track,
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i "just" want to switch on and off a plus on a track it's simple. Exemple: sometime you want reverb some times you don't want it. i certainly won't mixdown a track after manually bypass a plug etc... it's like working in 1970!!!
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well, bypass works for me. i find it hard to believe that it does not for you, so my guess was that you expected the plugin interface to deactivate (which does not happen). but the effect should be bypassed in the audio.

for reverb i'd rather automate the send-level.

the "70s method" was for saving cpu.

but i already wrote most of the above before..
bluesilence
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no problem bout cpu here (i have mac pro nehalem 2,97 ghz 8 cores with 32 gb of ram) i never reach 20% of cpu with full plugs everywhere.

so i don't have any solution to mute/unmute a plug

(reverb was an example i rarely automate reverb

that's incredible in 2010...

thanx for your help.
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bluesilence wrote:no problem bout cpu here (i have mac pro nehalem 2,97 ghz 8 cores with 32 gb of ram) i never reach 20% of cpu with full plugs everywhere.

so i don't have any solution to mute/unmute a plug

(reverb was an example i rarely automate reverb

that's incredible in 2010...

thanx for your help.


You are totally missing this. What you want does work just fine. Somehow, you don't see it working. I just think you're not getting it. Sorry if we seem unhelpful but the feature you are looking for is there and it works fine for us.

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Are you saying that when you use Bypass, it does not actually bypass? This works for every plug I use, and seems to work fine for everyone else. What plug-ins does the bypass not work for on your system?
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I'm not following this either. It makes no sense. The bypass envelope stops the plug from processing the signal. I'm not sure what else it is he's trying to do or who had this feature in software in 1970.

In this context.... Bypass = Mute (stop processing). ??

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I think I know what he is getting at. He wants to automate the send of a channel to a reverb or some other parallel effect. I think its a bit confusing because we use the same blue power button icon for the Send mute control, which can be automated. Just click on the blue power button on the send and you'll see Send Mute show up in the control link area just use the hand to drag it to a track or hit the A button to get an automation lane for that param.

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Jonathan:

To answer you i just loaded my track where i have an good example to check and -> It's now working!!!! bypass works!!

since 2 days it doesn't worked! now it's working!! i did nothing, just loaded the track!!

i'm sincerely sorry people, that make's me crazy!! i really don't understand why it's working now...

thanx for all your help.

AudioCave: thanx to you to take the time to create a screenshot but i already did my automation exactly liek that but it was really nice.

i still have a small problem: when it turn on/off i have a small "click" artefact
 
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