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CubaseUser
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Hi,
Not sure if any daw features this or whether its useful.
Here's the idea
In the mixer when playing tracks back themeter has peak clip indicator (great for identifying when a peak happens) however it doesn't identify exactly where in the track the peak happened.
My proposal to improve this is to have a correlation between the mixer and offending track.

How it would work is that when playing the track back and the peak meter clips,a small red flag should be inserted on the track to show the exact position where the peak happened. Any comments on this idea?
The benefit of this is that the meter shows how much you exceeded by and the track would show where it happened.

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Excellent
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GREAT idea. Really could have used it on this mixdown earlier today. Drummer had a couple of rogue snare hits...

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i can see how knowing exactly WHEN a peak occurred would make perfect sense -
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Good idea! Isn't this in some other DAW? (I remember seeing a vertical red line somewhere for this purpose)

Would love to see it in Studio One!
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Not sure if another daw has this, maybe someone can clear it and let us know.
What would make it better would be right next to a red flag a small text box with the amount in DB that the clipped audio exceeded 0.
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Vertical red lines was in Audacity. Thought it was more of a DAW I saw it in somewhere though. No worries.

CubaseUser wrote:What would make it better would be right next to a red flag a small text box with the amount in DB that the clipped audio exceeded 0.
Yeah, that would be so handy!
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Sonar sets a marker on the track when the signal is 0 db or greater. It also has a neat feature of turning the wave a different color when recording if 0db is exceeded. Easy to see a problem while recording. Would be great to see both options in S1.

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jpettit wrote:It also has a neat feature of turning the wave a different color when recording if 0db is exceeded


OMG that's an awesome feature!


Studio One needs THAT!

but still, users need to know WHEN the clip happened...multiple clips too...clipping behavior DOES need a little bit of tweaking for S1 users...but i'm so glad that the needed tweaks are MINOR issues. i have yet to run into any MAJOR FR's...
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The sonar feature is a great idea, that way you see the clip as it happens. I'm assuming that once the level then drops back under zero that the colour indicator on the offending clipped area goes back to its regular colour?
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I longed for this feature with any DAW I had so far. To know on which point in the song it actually peaked.
"why can't there be a red mark on this spot in the timeline?"

, great request
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CubaseUser wrote:The sonar feature is a great idea, that way you see the clip as it happens. I'm assuming that once the level then drops back under zero that the colour indicator on the offending clipped area goes back to its regular colour?

Yes
The change in color is user definable.
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Just a polite bump to keep this alive.
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Interesting idea, I definitely this - but a little thinking-out-loud:

With the advent of 24 bit audio, I virtually NEVER have track peaks since I don't feel obliged to "push the red" while tracking - I'm always able to keep the signals well below the peak threshold. (Well - the very occasional renegade "gotchas", but they're generally audible when they happen, and caught immediately)

For me, clipping becomes an issue in final mixes - cruising along on a mix and I suddenly notice there's been a peak somewhere since I last glanced at the mains meters. In this case it's the summing of signals that created the peak on the 2 bus, not that any one track exceeded zero - a couple (or more) things added together pushed the mains over..

So maybe - a red flag on the timeline anywhere a peak occurs on the mains, make it much easier to find where it happened. From there a quick visual of the tracks at that point should expose the potential culprits, those with sharp peaks at the designated points would merit additional scrutiny..

Perhaps some combination of this with "per track" flags?

Either way I'm 100% behind the basic idea!
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