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Play any scale with the white keys only!
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braj
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Someone recently was asking for a 'scale' feature similar to Garageband iPod edition's, which I also tried recently and really liked. I have been looking for something similar since I am disabled and playing any keyboard is a chore, and I found pizMidi to be really great. There are a lot of great VST midi plugins for free here:

http://thepiz.org/pizmidi/?p=pizmidi

but specifically 'midiScaleChanger' does this scale feature very well. It doesn't come with any scale presets so you must create your own, but it is actually very easy. Just find a scale chart online or whatever with scales in C (for example, I use an app on my phone). The plugin's GUI should be stretched out so that you see all of the notes in the scale in one line, with the 'Root Note' on the right. There are a bunch of other knobs shown as well but I personally just scale the GUI to hide these, so I have a clean interface with just what I need.



Once you have the plugin open, drag another VST as a sound source into the arranger, and arm both tracks. It helps to use a VST that shows a keyboard with any activity that you play visually displayed.so you can see the mapping easily.

Set the VST you are using as a sound source to use midiScaleChanger as its input source.

Now it is just a matter of turning the knobs to adjust the pitch of the scale you are working on to the proper note. You can re-tune any note to whatever you need, but what I have done it take the default scale (C Major, all white keys) and used that as the template, always keeping my root in C and only adjusting the white notes to other keys. This way all black keys will never sound.

You can preview your changes in real time and compare the results with your source scale chart vs. the keyboard on the sound source VST GUI keyboard.

Then just save off a preset in Studio One as you complete your scales. I save all my scales in C and as I need I use the 'Root Note' knob on the right to transpose to whatever key I need. This way I don't have to save off so many scales in so many keys.

Anyhow this is extremely useful for me, I hope it helps someone else out there that is physically or musically challenged

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Awesome! Thank you!
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braj
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Cool I'm glad you found it useful I was stoked to figure it out, makes my musical life much easier!
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wellenmacher
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Wonderfull tool ! Thanks for sharing that with us...

I would suggest to keep this thread alive and share scales as presets in here.
Will later go and make some and hope others will join in too..., building a scale data base.

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http://www.pianoworld.com/fun/vpc/piano_chords.htm

Where do we post scales, is there a way to put them in the exchange?

The link above has a little utility that can give you a bunch of scales easily. I'm sure there are much better ones out there, but this was the first one I found online that seemed clear and easy.
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BTW I'm finding it easier to use a phone app for my scales, it makes window management easier and i can also place it near the keyboard when I am playing. I use KeyChord on Android, and it has quite enough scales to keep me busy this lifetime
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I once suggested a similar way of inserting and changing midi notes
same as like it's done with EZpiano.

A way to change a whole midi from one scale to another
just by choosing a scale and the whole midi on a chosen
midi track or clip would switch to it.

Also with the wonderful circle of fifth, like in EZpiano.

No DAW has this function, and I ask me why...?

It's a pain to change one scale to another and it's very often needed.
To fit to a singer or just to change the feel, to test and explore possible expressions.



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Nice one Braj! This is a great tool... Although I haven't even gone to the page yet it looks like something that will really help in the sketching process.. Thanks
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Thanks again Braj.

Just got around to checking this out. Works a charm, very easy to use and no hassles so far. For someone like me who isn't trained on keys but uses them everyday, this is going to simplify the writing task immensely as I use lots of exotic scales (Persian, Hungarian Minor, Chinese, etc).
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Awesome tip !

However, i am confused with the workflow (just beginning to explore S1 V2, coming from Logic)

I try to drag the pizmidi vst plugin onto an empty instrument track, cause i don't want an instrument plugin to be on that track, i just need the pizmidi plugin so i can route it's output to another inst. track's input and record the midi.

But this seems not possible ; then an audio track is created with the pizmidi plugin as an insert.

So i HAVE to first put in an instrument plugin on an instrument track, after that i can drag the pizmidi plugin as insert on that track.
But then i losse some cpu resources cause of that unused instrument plugin.

Is this normal procedure in S1 ?



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vanhaze wrote:Awesome tip !

However, i am confused with the workflow (just beginning to explore S1 V2, coming from Logic)

I try to drag the pizmidi vst plugin onto an empty instrument track, cause i don't want an instrument plugin to be on that track, i just need the pizmidi plugin so i can route it's output to another inst. track's input and record the midi.

But this seems not possible ; then an audio track is created with the pizmidi plugin as an insert.

So i HAVE to first put in an instrument plugin on an instrument track, after that i can drag the pizmidi plugin as insert on that track.
But then i losse some cpu resources cause of that unused instrument plugin.

Is this normal procedure in S1 ?





I'm not seeing this behavior, is your midiScaleChanger plugin found in the Instruments? (mine is). It should just act like an instrument track, and have an output you can select as an input for another Instrument track.
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Hi braj,

Nope, midiscalechanger is in my Effects library, not in mij Instruments library.
How odd...
Maybe cause i am on mac ..

Best,

Robbie

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braj
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vanhaze wrote:Hi braj,

Nope, midiscalechanger is in my Effects library, not in mij Instruments library.
How odd...
Maybe cause i am on mac ..

Best,

Robbie



That could be it I guess. I'm on a PC. I was actually hoping it would be in the Effects as then it could all be on one track. I think you need to insert an instrument first and add the plugin as an insert on that track. I hope that works
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braj
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Well I didn't see this before, maybe there is hope for me to get everything on one track (though writing the midi in key won't happen then, I do believe). I tried this but couldn't get the plugin to load. No errors or anything.

Renaming a plugin with "fx" in its name with force the plugin to load as a VST effect. By default they load as VST instruments. See pizmidi.ini for more options for configuring plugins globally or per host.
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