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blocks, clips, session, matrix or some form of pattern based sequencing
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vondersulzburg
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@ C6: What I miss is the posibility to have own fx for each clip. If I want to have differen fx I have to choose different tracks or am I wrong? In Sequel3 they have a new idea but not finished completely. And I need a dongle . Always the problem with Laptops

really looking forward how bitwig is doing this and if they have songs within songs like Logic has. But as they announced there can be different parts within one clip.

I really hope that S1V2 will see in 2.1 and before bitwig studio launches a non linear / linear function and a browser supporting metadata and root key for the song with autotranspose!

Maybe bloatware for some but I think something the market wants. See all the threads in all the forums.

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I have been fighting for a long time to get something like composite pattern oriented arranging in all those sequencers. Only Logic did it in an acceptable way. But I do not support Apple and really do not want to switch to Mac just because of a missing feature in my sequencer.

So I really really really hope that Presonus will offer us something like Logic's "pack folder" in Studio One very soon. Done the Studio One way of course - I already made several suggestions as of how that could be achieved.

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@ masterjoe,

I do not think that this will come within the next year. If at all, this feature will be implemented earliest 2.5 or 3. If they @ least have realized a kind of Arranger mode in S1V2. That would have been better than nothing. But as some one mentioned it is V2 and all other are V6 and greater.

But we will see what bitwig is missing in there new system.
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I wouldn't like to see an Arranger Track because of the reasons I stated some posts above. If Presonus would add it - I wouldn't use it. It's really the weakest choice for pattern based sequencing IMO and it damages the benefits of a linear sequencer because of the "jumping" position indicator. Music IS linear as time is linear. That's a proven fact

Still the best solution (as it gives you maximum control and flexibility) is to allow event / part / song NESTING (compositing). And I don't mean to bounce something and place that audio file in a song. I mean LIVE, realtime nesting where both related songs / fragments remain fully editable all the time.

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This will be the game changes. I read somewhere on the web it's coming in V3.
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Janusz Grzybek
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Image Line developers implemented performance mode in FL 10.5. Here video:


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I like the idea of recording your arrangement in via hardware control.
I have faith in Presonus that they'll developan improved version of Blocks or Cubase Arranger
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After reading these 16 pages, there's almost nothing to say. PreSonus has te greatest comunity ever. Users are awesome and are trying to make StudioOne best DAW in market. I really hope that PreSonus will take all advantage from that.

Market is changing fast: Bitwig, Logic X, Ableton 9... New DAW's and updates are coming to be a game changer...
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Having spent more time with cubase arranger track and looking at reason blocks I have to say that they both need improving on, there are too many clicks to go through to set it up.
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Michael1985
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This is my idea which is really handy:

Eventgroups: Select the Events you want to group, press the group button and in the group menu appears a new group! -rename this group if you want -duplicate and move these groups how you want with the group tool -drag&drop groups from the group menu into the sequencer! 
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I'm sure Bitwig Studio will have it right ! But.. Who knows when that's going to be released.

And...Not sure how long it's going to take Presonus to offer Pattern/Arranger type features into Studio One Pro. But it sure feels like it's not going to be something they offer before version 3 comes out, which as far as I see, won't be out till 2013 or possibly even 2014

So... What's next 2.5 ? When ? and what will it offer ?

I feel there is quite a bit of a slow down in the development pace of Studio One Pro, maybe it's Summer, or they are hitting some technical issues, which is slowing down development.

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Michael1985
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Yes bitwig has the clip arranger along the clip mixer which not even ableton or fl studio have. This arranger comes close to my idea or blocks of props reason.

Pure patterns are too unflexible. I mean with a block alike thing you see always your whole arrangement and can work with it.
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I think Steinberg Sequel 3 has something similar, its called Performance Track.
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Here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=rjuJFef2sig&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Jason Gray
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My Idea for this:
If such a Preformance mode does eventually happen, i would like to see this connected with the new folder editing options, and where audio and midi can live in te same block/clip, Probally also have to be done/used in conjuntion with the track transform/freeze, where midi is transformed when it is dragged maybe along with existing audio as i formentioned, this way you can chopped up/edit sections of the track folder to make blocks/clips of this combined audio and midi that has/gets transformed when the whole clip/block is dragged into a clip/block matrix view or what ever it shall be called. Personally this is where and how i can see it going/ being done, I mentioned this once before, but makes perfect sense, i hope presonus have similar ideas.

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Just imagine being able to have this view in s1, for multiple lanes at the same time, better than the multi lane midi editor,which is more for orchestral arrangent, and bare in mind you cant beat this for drum sequencing also, its a must have view.
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and a few others Daws also have this editing feature.
 
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