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Zmeino
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I want to hook a mic up to a D8 and have two external FX (2 guitar pedals / maybe rack FX) added to the signal chain. How would I go about doing this with a D8? It looks as though the DIgimax FS has more I/O, to make this possible. But I really have no idea.
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It won't be easy. And it will eat some channels.

Before giving pointers on this can you tell me what you are inputting and where? I'm assuming guitar on the front but not sure what else.
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Monolithent wrote:It won't be easy. And it will eat some channels.

Before giving pointers on this can you tell me what you are inputting and where? I'm assuming guitar on the front but not sure what else.


Hi, thanks for the response! I hope to record some vocals, and send them through a few fx.

I have an Ensoniq DP/4 FX unit, and two behringer stomp boxes (Echo Machine EM600) I want to hook up. I know it's a bigger ask using a mic signal and sending to line level, but is it possible with the D8? I know the FS has more I/O so I was wondering if that might be easier to make this possible. Thanks again!
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Monolithent wrote:It won't be easy. And it will eat some channels.

Before giving pointers on this can you tell me what you are inputting and where? I'm assuming guitar on the front but not sure what else.


Which brings some anger to me. The(now discontinued) Digimax FS had 4 inserts.
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Just out of curiousity, and I think I know the answer but need to verify, are you using this on a guitar or vocals?

Those pedals pose a problem if you're using this for vocals. The reason is that their I/O is instrument level and not mic level. The D8 can't use its instrument front port and mic rear port at the same time.

I've got a bit of studying to do before I can try to find you a solution here. The problem is getting the mic level signal into the pedals without a lot extra gear. The Ensoniq piece is simple but getting your pedals into the mix is going to be difficult without some reading.
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Monolithent wrote:Just out of curiousity, and I think I know the answer but need to verify, are you using this on a guitar or vocals?

Those pedals pose a problem if you're using this for vocals. The reason is that their I/O is instrument level and not mic level. The D8 can't use its instrument front port and mic rear port at the same time.

I've got a bit of studying to do before I can try to find you a solution here. The problem is getting the mic level signal into the pedals without a lot extra gear. The Ensoniq piece is simple but getting your pedals into the mix is going to be difficult without some reading.


Yeah, I want to use the FX on vocals. I also have a Boss SE-50, so I'm not entirely wedded to having guitar pedals being used, but it would be a nice option! So, I have a SE-50/Ensoniq DP4 that I want to use on vocals. Thanks for helping me out here!

Sorry for the newbie questions.

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From the look of things you should be able to run from the outputs of the D8 to the input of either device. Chain the devices together by routing the outputs of one to the inputs of the other. The route the last device to the line inputs on the D8. You'll have to decide in your software if you want to output stereo or mono. That will make a difference in how you connect.

I can't really find a way to implement the pedals without a whole ot of extra gear and connections. It's possible but difficult and expensive.
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Monolithent wrote:From the look of things you should be able to run from the outputs of the D8 to the input of either device. Chain the devices together by routing the outputs of one to the inputs of the other. The route the last device to the line inputs on the D8. You'll have to decide in your software if you want to output stereo or mono. That will make a difference in how you connect.

I can't really find a way to implement the pedals without a whole ot of extra gear and connections. It's possible but difficult and expensive.


It was possible until the Digimax FS got discontinued.
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Monolithent wrote:From the look of things you should be able to run from the outputs of the D8 to the input of either device. Chain the devices together by routing the outputs of one to the inputs of the other. The route the last device to the line inputs on the D8. You'll have to decide in your software if you want to output stereo or mono. That will make a difference in how you connect.

I can't really find a way to implement the pedals without a whole ot of extra gear and connections. It's possible but difficult and expensive.


Awesome thanks for the response!
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MR4Y wrote:
Monolithent wrote:From the look of things you should be able to run from the outputs of the D8 to the input of either device. Chain the devices together by routing the outputs of one to the inputs of the other. The route the last device to the line inputs on the D8. You'll have to decide in your software if you want to output stereo or mono. That will make a difference in how you connect.

I can't really find a way to implement the pedals without a whole ot of extra gear and connections. It's possible but difficult and expensive.


It was possible until the Digimax FS got discontinued.


I'm also thinking of getting a FS, please enlighten me on how this is possible!
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Zmeino wrote:
MR4Y wrote:
Monolithent wrote:From the look of things you should be able to run from the outputs of the D8 to the input of either device. Chain the devices together by routing the outputs of one to the inputs of the other. The route the last device to the line inputs on the D8. You'll have to decide in your software if you want to output stereo or mono. That will make a difference in how you connect.

I can't really find a way to implement the pedals without a whole ot of extra gear and connections. It's possible but difficult and expensive.


It was possible until the Digimax FS got discontinued.


I'm also thinking of getting a FS, please enlighten me on how this is possible!


The FS has 8 inserts jacks in the back.

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MR4Y wrote:
Zmeino wrote:
MR4Y wrote:
Monolithent wrote:From the look of things you should be able to run from the outputs of the D8 to the input of either device. Chain the devices together by routing the outputs of one to the inputs of the other. The route the last device to the line inputs on the D8. You'll have to decide in your software if you want to output stereo or mono. That will make a difference in how you connect.

I can't really find a way to implement the pedals without a whole ot of extra gear and connections. It's possible but difficult and expensive.


It was possible until the Digimax FS got discontinued.


I'm also thinking of getting a FS, please enlighten me on how this is possible!


The FS has 8 inserts jacks in the back.


I still have yet to use outboard FX with an interface/pre, I don't know that much. So if I plug something into channel 2 of the FS, and send insert 2 to an FX unit and I press RECORD it will be recorded that way...with FX on the recorded tracks? Or do I have to set up a send...?

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Yeah, you'll have to setup a send with the D8.
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