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http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel#p/u/4/tQExMBvJB2M
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I smell another revolution coming...

or a bunch of dumbed down folks in cages... wow!

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That is a GROSS misinterpretation of the National Defense Authorization Act.

Without getting into an argument. This youtube channel...and "InfoWars" is part of the problem, not the solution. This type of journalism is poisonous. Non-factual, emotional appeals like this, with the complete understanding that the general public won't take the time or effort to actually understand the situation is political blasphemy. It should be illegal for the damage it causes.

The amendment he's discussing, No. 1274, was defeated.

The ACTUAL NDAA includes Sec. 1031 which is a reference to internment at Guantanamo. It doesn't say anything about the length of detainment or anything of the sort. It simply officially defines what a detainee at Guantanamo is. Read it yourself: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h112-1540&version=rfs&nid=t0%3Arfs%3A4670

Also, there is nothing in this bill whatsoever that indicates that Title 10 authorities have changed. For the uninitiated Title 10 laws provide the legal basis for the roles, missions and organization of each of the services as well as the United States Department of Defense. Each of the five subtitles deals with a separate aspect or component of the armed services. Including the determination that military forces can not be used as law enforcement in any capacity.

The MASSIVE insinuation that armed forces personnel are somehow going to be used to detain U.S. citizens without trial for an indefinite period, is outright ridiculous.

Bullshit. Plain and simple. And the only reason they do it is because they want to sucker you into paying them for a subscription to this garbage.

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About the link? Yes, that's BS. But.....

Buried in the Defense Budget Bill, are two clauses:

* one would give the US Military the right to detain indefinitely terrorists captured overseas.
* the second, and the more damaging of the two would have given the US Military the right to detain anyone within the United States indefinitely without trial if suspected of terrorist activities.

It was so bad that Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) tried to get an amendment passed to strip the second language from the bill because 1) it could apply to US citizens and those with green cards who are guaranteed a right to trial under the Bill of Rights; and 2) the US Military has better things to do than patrol the streets looking for "suspicious" activity. Define "suspected".

I was watching this one for three days last week. It was horribly unreported by the mainstream news. Her amendment (1026 or 1126) failed 55-45 with 60 votes needed to pass. It was a roll call vote, so the names of who voted to keep the clause in the Defense Bill (voted against the amendment) are a matter of public record, and should be in the Sunday paper. The report appeared briefly on Yahoo (Associated Press article), but was replaced by some fluff less than an hour later.

The House version of the Defense Budget Bill does not contain the language, so the bill will go back to the House for reconciliation (or ironing out differences), and it will be interesting to see if the final version contains it. The president has threatened to veto the bill because of this clause.

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Buried in the link.. this might be what the fuss is all about ; )
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Man, you people attacking AJ. This crap is happening! I get more of the truth from AJ than any mainstream news channel PERIOD! Look at MF Global, stealing peoples private accounts, but that's just a conspiracy too right? WAKE UP!! The US is being conquered by the big banks and corporations, and people like gizzmo have to inject their mouths. Uses it to get people to subscribe huh? Well,OF COARSE, he does run an independent news outfit not funded by big banks and corporations ya know! He has to make money to get his message broadcast!

I didn't want to reply to this because I knew I'd get pissed, but oh well. Gizz, maybe you will start listening when you wake up one morning and a loaf of bread is $25 and all your freedom has been raped from you.
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Yes it's actually pretty absurd to think the facts,if researched are still being questioned. This link isn't b.s. at all, it's showing both sides of the people we have here in the world though,the ones who are competent with an open mind who will understand ,and the ones who will trust and go along with anything thrown at them.



Anyways carry on, won't see me in the fema camps though. Metal is king,get u some,you'll probably need it at some point.
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hey it makes a good pair to the patriot act though huh??
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2cthetruth wrote:Man, you people attacking AJ. This crap is happening! I get more of the truth from AJ than any mainstream news channel PERIOD! Look at MF Global, stealing peoples private accounts, but that's just a conspiracy too right? WAKE UP!! The US is being conquered by the big banks and corporations, and people like gizzmo have to inject their mouths. Uses it to get people to subscribe huh? Well,OF COARSE, he does run an independent news outfit not funded by big banks and corporations ya know! He has to make money to get his message broadcast!

I didn't want to reply to this because I knew I'd get pissed, but oh well. Gizz, maybe you will start listening when you wake up one morning and a loaf of bread is $25 and all your freedom has been raped from you.


Ugh. Here we go. Make me the bad guy because you misinterpreted my response as an attack against your beliefs rather than a comment on the inadequacy of the reporting in the link.



READ the act he's discussing in the video. The OP was a video link that discussed the NDAA and completely misreported on what it contained. I don't doubt that there are shady happenings in congress, but bad journalism is bad journalism. Even if it's bad journalism you happen to agree with.
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This is not just off-topic, it's way off-topic, and the type of thread that inevitably goes to 10+ pages and results in bad feelings all around.

Until we get a sub-forum here for this kind of (potentially inflammatory) stuff, how about we all just try to refrain from posting it here at all? (With due deference to the 1st Amendment ).
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Oh geez Gizz, I remember everybody ganging up on me in a previous post (some of which are on this page),and it seemed to me that i was referred to as someone who wears a tin-foil hat for listening to AJ. Well, now that the world is entered the toilet and is in it's way down the drain, maybe some of you folk should watch AJ as lately there is a ton of stuff going on that main stream won't touch. I don't think you are a witch at all, just seems people attack what they are afraid of being true or can't take the truth. I think what people are getting at is senate bill S 1867. AJ is not the only one reporting on this as it is a pretty hot topic(look it up). Very scarey.

Look, I love making music, love to use this software, and come here to learn all I can to pursue my passion. I also love my freedoms and like to be informed about anything that may come along that seeks to destroy them. We are in historic times as we will see the Euro crash, the world go deeper into depression, and possibly a one world government come to fruition, if not WW3 first. Right now the US is massing troops on the Afghan border with Pakistan, China is massing troops along it's border should NATO attack Syria or Pakistan, Russia is flat out warning the us that it will bomb the missile shield if implemented in Europe, and is saber rattling against the West for the same things China is. Gold and other commodities are set to go through the roof even more so now that the central banks temporarily bailed out Europe....on and on it goes!

I am glad yet another thread like this popped up as this is no secret society. We are human foremost and we should care about one another enough to keep each other informed..musically and certainly to anything trying to take our liberties, be it here or abroad.

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bobbybland, and whoever-else out-there is tired of being spoon fed lies by the main stream, here are a few you tube channels I follow closely when not knee deep in S1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGU1FvZVrN8&feature=colike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB2bv9jQvyY&feature=colike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7XyC0kcERY&feature=colike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUeVDqpfcsw&feature=colike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyAC84loD_E&feature=colike

OK, maybe more than just a few, but they are all darn good people and very intelligent. I encourage even you Gizz to have a look at these peoples past, present, and future vids as they are very accurate. Hell, most of the time I get news from here that breaks in mainstream days later Haha!

God Bless all!
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2cthetruth wrote:We are in historic times as we will see the Euro crash, the world go deeper into depression, and possibly a one world government come to fruition, if not WW3 first. Right now the US is massing troops on the Afghan border with Pakistan, China is massing troops along it's border should NATO attack Syria or Pakistan, Russia is flat out warning the us that it will bomb the missile shield if implemented in Europe, and is saber rattling against the West for the same things China is. Gold and other commodities are set to go through the roof even more so now that the central banks temporarily bailed out Europe....


Whew! You might enjoy this truthseeking 'journalist's' channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/davidicke
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I won't engage the topics which are obviously held because of strong belief. 2cthetruth feels very strongly and I won't condescend to assume I can change his opinions. I do, however, hold steady that the link in the OP is an excellent example of how journalism can be used as a tool to further an agenda without responsibility towards accuracy or facts. It is quite simply a failure to take their job seriously.
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BoSchafers wrote:
2cthetruth wrote:We are in historic times as we will see the Euro crash, the world go deeper into depression, and possibly a one world government come to fruition, if not WW3 first. Right now the US is massing troops on the Afghan border with Pakistan, China is massing troops along it's border should NATO attack Syria or Pakistan, Russia is flat out warning the us that it will bomb the missile shield if implemented in Europe, and is saber rattling against the West for the same things China is. Gold and other commodities are set to go through the roof even more so now that the central banks temporarily bailed out Europe....


Whew! You might enjoy this truthseeking 'journalist's' channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/davidicke


I heard this guy sees lizard people. A little far out if you ask me! I do seek the truth in things though Bo, and I see nothing wrong with that. Oh and if you don't believe anything I stated in my post, don't be afraid to do some research.Better be prepared than caught off guard when shtf.

Gizz, I'm sorry. I just look at what AJ presents, look up the articles and documents for myself and make my decision based on that. Granted, all of the things he sometimes rants about can be off base, but he is a very intelligent man and seeks truth. If we can't trust independent media, who can we trust?

Again, I'm sorry, but please have a look at some of the channels I posted above.
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