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Is there any way to shift all of the volume automation for an event or selection once it has been written? I'd like to be able to shift the whole automation track up or down a few DB's without changing the relative volumes of each point - or re-rcording the automation. I keep trying to use the grabber tool while holding down function keys but all I can seem to do is copy the automation and drag it left or right.

If I don't hold a function key I can move individual segments up or down but that's a pain for a whole track.


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I think you can select all the little nodes at once and then just drag them up or down. I don't remember if there's a more convenient way of selecting them than having to drag across the whole track though.

You could also just insert a mixtool on the channel and use that for whatever static volume changes you want to make.
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You can also select all the events and use volume handles to increase or decrease the volume by the same amount. S1 automation engine is not very sophisticated...
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But please bear in mind that such actions (mixtool or volume handles) influence the signal level that hits the plugins (if any) on their way to the fader - I guess they are all pre-fader...
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riddim wrote:I don't remember if there's a more convenient way of selecting them than having to drag across the whole track though..


CTL + A selects everything, including automation, and you can move the envelopes without moving clips.
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bjosephs wrote:Is there any way to shift all of the volume automation for an event or selection once it has been written? I'd like to be able to shift the whole automation track up or down a few DB's without changing the relative volumes of each point - or re-rcording the automation. I keep trying to use the grabber tool while holding down function keys but all I can seem to do is copy the automation and drag it left or right.

If I don't hold a function key I can move individual segments up or down but that's a pain for a whole track.


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If I understand your question correctly, you can hold down the ALT key and use the + and - keys to raise/lower the volume (I think it's ALT..or maybe SHIFT if that doesn't work). That allows you to modify the volume for that particular segment recorded...and of course as mentioned above you could use CTRL+A to select all. Also, holding down the SHIFT key and selecting tracks one by one works if you just want a few tracks.

I do wish there were more of a range with modifying the volume...it seems to be a substantial change.
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you are right - there are two levels of precision for this action (normal and fine volume adjustment). But the volume automation changes in most cases should be on the fader level not on clip level because any changes of the clip gain change the signal flow through inserts and fx. In Nuendo I just change the automation mode and move the fader - all volume automation on the given track gets moved down or up.
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dogcatstudios wrote:unclejason

you are right - there are two levels of precision for this action (normal and fine volume adjustment). But the volume automation changes in most cases should be on the fader level not on clip level because any changes of the clip gain change the signal flow through inserts and fx. In Nuendo I just change the automation mode and move the fader - all volume automation on the given track gets moved down or up.


Thanks, that makes sense. I'm still learning a lot (especially in this forum!)
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dogcatstudios wrote:But please bear in mind that such actions (mixtool or volume handles) influence the signal level that hits the plugins (if any) on their way to the fader - I guess they are all pre-fader...


Well the good thing about using mixtool for something like this is that you can insert it anywhere in the effects chain on a track so you can decide on your own which parts of the chain it should/shouldn't influence.
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I think you can select all the little nodes at once and then just drag them up or down. I don't remember if there's a more convenient way of selecting them than having to drag across the whole track though.



This. I can't believe I never thought to select them all and click a single node to drag them up/down. I was pulling on the line between nodes....



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bjosephs wrote:
I think you can select all the little nodes at once and then just drag them up or down. I don't remember if there's a more convenient way of selecting them than having to drag across the whole track though.



This. I can't believe I never thought to select them all and click a single node to drag them up/down. I was pulling on the line between nodes....



I know you asked about offsetting a full track of automation. But if you want to offset automation on just part of a track, don't forget about the ultra-cool "transform" variant of the Paint Tool:



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Ha! I just tried it, that is cool. Thank you.
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