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guys I posted a while back in the Feature Requests area for Presonus to implement what Microsoft Office call Track Changes. If you've not used Word let me give you a brief description.
If you work on documents which are shared over a network at work then Track Changes is a function which allows you to send a document to a colleague for them to review, critique, edit or even add new info to.
An example would be I write a letter, I send it to a couple of colleagues via email which is done "for review" rather than simply attaching it as normal.
My colleagues open the email with the attachment (the Reviewing Toolbar is activated) they edit, delete, add or just add a comment but basically change what i've created, they then send it back to me. Once they've made their changes they click Save and then Reply With Changes. I'm automatically added as the mail recipient and its then sent back to me.
When I open the attachment I can see all the edits made thanks to Track Changes as it shows coloured balloons where a particular adjustment or addition or deletion has taken place. Different coloured balloons are used to represent different people if multiple reviewers are involved.
Now imagine modifying this idea to work in a DAW, you're working on a track with a friend who is miles away.
Lets say you've laid down keys, drums, bass and vocals and you want your friend to add guitar, you'd send it to him for review and he'd add his guitar track. He'd Reply With Changes once finished and when you receive the edited track the new additions would be documented on screen. You could then tweak the sound of that guitar and send it back to him to review if he likes your adjustments, and if he doesn't then he can alter it and again send back to you by using Reply With Changes, you'll then see what edits he's made.
This would work well if you were working on mixing as any changes made to fader edits, fx edits etc would all be documented so you'd know exactly what had been changed in your song.
Maybe an idea for a future version?
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This would be pretty interesting - but I bet you wanted to open a new thread for this instead of adding to Johnny's video soap ...
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Gizmo said: Do it with multiple musicians. An "internet band" if you will. I'd certainly be willing to make the next installment.



Ok, great. When I finish the tracks I have planned, the next part of the series will be hooking up you guys and getting your parts in. And if you guys have cameras, shoot the vid and send that along too and this could get really interesting.

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CubaseUser wrote:guys I posted a while back in the Feature Requests area for Presonus to implement what Microsoft Office call Track Changes. If you've not used Word let me give you a brief description.
If you work on documents which are shared over a network at work then Track Changes is a function which allows you to send a document to a colleague for them to review, critique, edit or even add new info to.
An example would be I write a letter, I send it to a couple of colleagues via email which is done "for review" rather than simply attaching it as normal.
My colleagues open the email with the attachment (the Reviewing Toolbar is activated) they edit, delete, add or just add a comment but basically change what i've created, they then send it back to me. Once they've made their changes they click Save and then Reply With Changes. I'm automatically added as the mail recipient and its then sent back to me.
When I open the attachment I can see all the edits made thanks to Track Changes as it shows coloured balloons where a particular adjustment or addition or deletion has taken place. Different coloured balloons are used to represent different people if multiple reviewers are involved.
Now imagine modifying this idea to work in a DAW, you're working on a track with a friend who is miles away.
Lets say you've laid down keys, drums, bass and vocals and you want your friend to add guitar, you'd send it to him for review and he'd add his guitar track. He'd Reply With Changes once finished and when you receive the edited track the new additions would be documented on screen. You could then tweak the sound of that guitar and send it back to him to review if he likes your adjustments, and if he doesn't then he can alter it and again send back to you by using Reply With Changes, you'll then see what edits he's made.
This would work well if you were working on mixing as any changes made to fader edits, fx edits etc would all be documented so you'd know exactly what had been changed in your song.
Maybe an idea for a future version?


Actually this would be a cool idea. From the looks of where this video series may be going, this post is relevant. Thanx for the idea! Hopefully the powers that be are watching.

Presonus already has one thing the others don't ..... and that the Soundcloud connection. Why not a collaboration connection, eh?

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Ok, Part 4 is up on the 1st page. Woohoo!!!

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Kahlbert wrote:This would be pretty interesting - but I bet you wanted to open a new thread for this instead of adding to Johnny's video soap ...


My thoughts exactly!....but should I respond and make everyone think Johnny has uploaded more parts?!?!?

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Texas Willie wrote:
Kahlbert wrote:This would be pretty interesting - but I bet you wanted to open a new thread for this instead of adding to Johnny's video soap ...


My thoughts exactly!....but should I respond and make everyone think Johnny has uploaded more parts?!?!?

TW


LOL.... Funny thing is...... I did Part 4 is ready for viewing (thanx for the bump anyway TW...lol)
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Yeah Haaaa. Another part, wasn't sure how many parts are involved, but glad to see another one. Johnny, how did you come up with the idea for this song, did you decide on a melody/chord structure or lyrics/song story? Looking forward for more parts, this is best tutorial anyone could ask for.


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OK, I have avoided the temptation to watch because I am off work for the next couple of days. REALLY looking forward to watching all 4 parts together.

I'm thinking Gummi Bears as opposed to popcorn as the butter doesn't play nice with the guitar strings if inspiration strikes.

And now, for the show.......

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Texas Willie wrote:
Kahlbert wrote:This would be pretty interesting - but I bet you wanted to open a new thread for this instead of adding to Johnny's video soap ...


My thoughts exactly!....but should I respond and make everyone think Johnny has uploaded more parts?!?!?

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Hey Johnny, nice idea to quantize in sections. I always have to listen to the whole part once more to see if something went wrong. Thanks for pointing out the (actual) obvious!

BTW, have you thought of using "Quantize 50%" instead?

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Kahlbert wrote:Hey Johnny, nice idea to quantize in sections. I always have to listen to the whole part once more to see if something went wrong. Thanks for pointing out the (actual) obvious!

BTW, have you thought of using "Quantize 50%" instead?


LOL. No problem. glad to give you an option. And speaking of options, to be honest, I've never tried the 50% quantize. Sometimes I don't quantize at all to really keep a feel (if I get luck enough to, that is). But also, if I'm off, not sure if 50% would be enough.....lol

I'll have to try it. Thanx for the idea.
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Riffmaker wrote:

Johnny, how did you come up with the idea for this song, did you decide on a melody/chord structure or lyrics/song story? Looking forward for more parts, this is best tutorial anyone could ask for.


Thanks again,


You know, that's a good question actually. Usually, it all starts with a rhythm and feel I have in my head, but there are times where I'll come up with a group of words that I feel would make a good chorus or a lead in to a chorus. No real solid formula actually.

This song invented itself for the video, really. When I was setting everything up, I had a melody in my head, grabbed my Kapo and guitar and then searched around for the key I was singing in.

I'm not musically trained so I never know what key I'm in so hunting around for it sometimes can be a chore. Especially since I can sing more cords than I can play......lol

As far as the story goes, the first lyrics I thought up were for the Chorus "From The Outside Of Your Heart" which means little as a sentence on its own, but if I write the rest of the song about being in love with someone who is not in love you or maybe even a relationship that's falling apart, as the end lyric in the chorus is:

"I'm looking in, from the outside of your heart"

So since I really have no lyrics yet, this gives me some room to work.

So that's it really. That's how most of my writing flows when I have an idea. I never really thought about it till you asked so thanx for letting me explain it a bit.

And now with this serious throat issue I have going on now, my doctor has already told me I'll never sing like I used to again so now I have that limitation to work around.

But I won't let it stop me although I get really depressed sometimes when I listen to some of the songs I did just last year. But, onward and upward........

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themuzic wrote:
As far as the story goes, the first lyrics I thought up were for the Chorus "From The Outside Of Your Heart" which means little as a sentence on its own, but if I write the rest of the song about being in love with someone who is not in love you or maybe even a relationship that's falling apart, as the end lyric in the chorus is:

"I'm looking in, from the outside of your heart"


...so there will be no happy ending in this serial!?!
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So, as far as the happy ending, I don't think that was the general direction.

Keep cranking!

As far as your doctor, with no disrespect, they are ALWAYS 100% Right.(Not). Do what you are comfortable with, and from what we can see, you are comfortable doing what you are doing. One of the things that make you a stand out is the sheer enthusiasm you have. All of the time (except the Cranky Dark Knight times , LOL). You absolutely INSPIRE the rest of us to get in there and replicate what we hear. YOUR most valuable asset is your ability to imagine something then replicate it. THAT is working as well as it did last year.

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