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gadget69
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The cheaper LED lights SUCK major! I hated them and went back to my par cans...
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gadget69 wrote:The cheaper LED lights SUCK major! I hated them and went back to my par cans...


I agree, I borrowed a set of "cheap" LED cans for a show last year, and they were horrible and hard to work with. I've had a few good recommendations on the Mega QA PAR38's though, and they should suffice until I can afford better LED cans.
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I agree if you are talking about that 1st generation LED cans with the multiple 10mm or (even worse) 5mm LEDs. Those were really horrible. The new generation is A LOT better. As I said before I prefer the ADJ Tripar Profile with their 5x3W tricolor LEDs. I think in the history of stage lighting there was never a piece of gear that was so easy to handle. You can not only loop through the DMX signal, you can even loop through power! And - referring to the manual - you can plug more than 20 cans in a row in a normal household´s wall socket (230V around here in Germany) - just like christmas tree lights. There are other advantages like absolutely no heat, no broken bulbs during a show not to speak about the ability of color changing.

I keep them mounted & fully wired on t-bars. Depending on the venue I can hang them in a truss system or put them on windups. It just takes a couple of minutes and you have the lights running.

OK, they are not as bright as old PAR cans, but all in all I would never go back to old fashioned lights.
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Oh yeah, the first gen cans weren't that great. The newer generation of lights is a lot better.the lights I'm looking at are quad-LED diodes, much better color mixing, plus several people have recommended them to me.
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Hi

First...I only read some of the replies, so maybe this point has already been made.


I would be concerned that the wireless mics have different sounding capsules and could create problems in the monitors.

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roly-m wrote:Hi

First...I only read some of the replies, so maybe this point has already been made.


I would be concerned that the wireless mics have different sounding capsules and could create problems in the monitors.

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Can you explain a bit more?
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How much actual experience do you have twisting knobs and pushing faders? Most really good bands that are into life sustaining cash gigs are very dubious of novice knob turners. The reality is the type of music you develop an expertise within will dictate the type of equipment that it takes to efficiently do the job. For example: with Bluegrass bands the only backline consideration is generally with the bass. Given the fact we have no percussion to facilitate this affords a sharp trim at 90 hz that cleans up a lot of lower end mud in the mains and monitoring plus most good bass amps have a balanced out for house sound. Every Bluegrass band I work with has been into IEM for years and to this end clarity in the house mix is the mantra -not the ubiquitous rock and roll "MORE ME". Carefully consider the Audio Technica line of mics if you have any aspirations to get serious about sound reinforcement for acoustic music. From a sonic quality, dependability and price standpoint they are hard to beat. And one last recommendation: I would not invest a penny in new speakers until the new PreSonus line of next generation sound reinforcement systems is introduced. From what I understand they have a real game changer with hot technology that has here-to-fore been more than most of us could afford! Good luck and I hope you will find an opportunity to chase your dream.
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If you EQ your monitors for the Betas, the wireless mics may not sound good in the monitors.

Not a problem if you have a dedicated monitor board, but that's not the case in your situation.

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roly-m wrote:If you EQ your monitors for the Betas, the wireless mics may not sound good in the monitors.

Not a problem if you have a dedicated monitor board, but that's not the case in your situation.

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Oh yeah, I know this lol. Shouldn't be too bad.
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"Oh yeah, I know this lol. Shouldn't be too bad."

Have you looked at the response curves for your mic choices?

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Well, the dealer I've been talking to has thrown me a curveball. Anyone had any experience with dB Technlogies speakers? Mainly the DVX D15 and the SUB 18D...my dealer thinks they would be a better choice for a bit more $$. He's going to see about sending me a D15 to demo in person, seeing as he's in CA.

roly-m wrote:"Oh yeah, I know this lol. Shouldn't be too bad."

Have you looked at the response curves for your mic choices?

cheers


Yes, I have, but what exactly is your point? I'm sorry, I just fail to see what the big deal is with using wired mics and wireless mics together, and any issues with the monitors. I've used wireless units with SM58's and Beta 58A's on my system before, and not had any problems...

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I believe what roly-m was trying to say was if you ring out your monitors using a Shure-mod on the line6 mic and then change to another mod you may have feedback again. I don´t think that anybody will do this. The decision which mod to use comes first and monitor sound later. Again: I can recommend the line6 wireless mics. They are great.

About dB-speakers: As I said before I prefer IE monitors but not all bands like them so I have some floor wedges as well. Among them I have a couple of dB Flexsys-FM12s and they do really good even in a loud environment.

As far as I know dB Technologies is the economy brand of RCF. I just did a job a few weeks ago using a huge RCF line array and it was pretty awesome. So I think dB is pretty good.

I must admit that I have no experience at all with your previous mentioned QSCs though, because they are not that common in Germany. They are available but around here it´s more HK Audio, Turbosound, RCF and so on.
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Mort wrote:I believe what roly-m was trying to say was if you ring out your monitors using a Shure-mod on the line6 mic and then change to another mod you may have feedback again. I don´t think that anybody will do this. The decision which mod to use comes first and monitor sound later. Again: I can recommend the line6 wireless mics. They are great.

About dB-speakers: As I said before I prefer IE monitors but not all bands like them so I have some floor wedges as well. Among them I have a couple of dB Flexsys-FM12s and they do really good even in a loud environment.

As far as I know dB Technologies is the economy brand of RCF. I just did a job a few weeks ago using a huge RCF line array and it was pretty awesome. So I think dB is pretty good.

I must admit that I have no experience at all with your previous mentioned QSCs though, because they are not that common in Germany. They are available but around here it´s more HK Audio, Turbosound, RCF and so on.


Oh yeah, I understand that, and it's going to be like any other mic...change it and the sound will change, which could harm or help you. I'm not THAT new to this. My dealer said he may let me demo a D15 for a couple days (he's in CA) so I may see if one of the local GC's has the KW153's so I can put them side by side and see...
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"I believe what roly-m was trying to say was if you ring out your monitors using a Shure-mod on the line6 mic and then change to another mod you may have feedback again"

So....this Line 6 thingey is a mic modeling device?
If that's the case, and the modeling is somewhat accurate, I doubt you will have problems..
My apologies for not being hip to this new stuff.

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roly-m wrote:"I believe what roly-m was trying to say was if you ring out your monitors using a Shure-mod on the line6 mic and then change to another mod you may have feedback again"

So....this Line 6 thingey is a mic modeling device?
If that's the case, and the modeling is somewhat accurate, I doubt you will have problems..
My apologies for not being hip to this new stuff.

cheers


No problem, everyone has to catch up at some point I was just confused was all lol.
 
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