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The option is available in a few other daws. Is this being considered for S1 v2?
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Gateway2011 wrote:The option is available in a few other daws. Is this being considered for S1 v2?


You mean pan width?
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like in pro tools and reaper a separate pan not for left and right channels of a stereo file
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def want this ,this would be amazing..
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Gateway2011 wrote:like in pro tools and reaper a separate pan not for left and right channels of a stereo file


Excuse my ignorance, but what does this accomplish that can't be done with one pan pot?
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It will allow you to set the pan width.
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Motoko wrote:It will allow you to set the pan width.


You mean like stereo spreading pan's even further?
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x-factor wrote:
Motoko wrote:It will allow you to set the pan width.


You mean like stereo spreading pan's even further?


or narrower. Say you have a stereo drum track. It will normally take up the entire field, but you want to reduce it to say take up only 40% of the field and pan it slightly left or right. Pro Tools has dual panning controls on stereo tracks.

Put this in the Feature Requests.
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Wow, didn't know that such feature exists. It would be cool to see it in v2.
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I don't see how a setting like this is any different than the regular position pot. I opened my Protools and the settings sound the same. Maybe it's more that you can see it but I can duplicate and pan position with a single knob as with the dual pan.

My ears aren't fool...

Maybe just my in-experience in such things too. But this may be more audible with a stereo sound but not at all with a mono sound, correct?

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....ok, upon further fiddling, I can now see this is really for Stereo tracks as where a normal pan to the left, "shuts off" the right channel but the Dual pan will "move" the right channel, correct?

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A stereo track is in fact two tracks, yeah? "Left" and "Right". Most DAWs only include a single pan control which basically attenuates on of these channels (turn the pot left, the "right" channel becomes quieter, ignoring panning laws).

ProTools (and SONAR's Channel Tools: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zUCZ__sTM8 ) has pan controls for both channels of a stereo image, much like if they were on their own tracks. This makes stereo reversing easy, and also allows you to narrow the width (also possible in StudioOne's Binaural Pan).

The main advantage is that you can "pan" the stereo image instead of merely attenuating one side. You could have "Left" panned hard-left, and sit the "Right" between center and right, maintaining levels while biasing the image to one side (in theory; some balancing may be required).

Personally, I'll agree it can be a useful addition, but certainly not one that I utilise on a regular basis.
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Until this is a feature in S1, check out Flux Stereo Tool plugin for both Mac and Windows (I'm not sure about 32 vs 64 bit, etc.):

http://www.fluxhome.com/products/freewares/stereotool

It's freeware, and I've found it quite useful. It was recommended on this forum (sorry, I don't remember the original poster).
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Julia B wrote:
x-factor wrote:
Motoko wrote:It will allow you to set the pan width.


You mean like stereo spreading pan's even further?


or narrower. Say you have a stereo drum track. It will normally take up the entire field, but you want to reduce it to say take up only 40% of the field and pan it slightly left or right. Pro Tools has dual panning controls on stereo tracks.

Put this in the Feature Requests.


Eike promised ages ago that this will be implemented - someday
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GMGB_bass wrote:Until this is a feature in S1, check out Flux Stereo Tool plugin for both Mac and Windows (I'm not sure about 32 vs 64 bit, etc.):

http://www.fluxhome.com/products/freewares/stereotool

It's freeware, and I've found it quite useful. It was recommended on this forum (sorry, I don't remember the original poster).


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