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bemuzed
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Then you can let them all slowly die in peace from then on before the next OS upgrade.
My 2626 definitely does not like Lion - in fact when I plug it in it stops even the internal sound interfaces from being detected. I've downloaded the update for the other "non-legacy" models and it allows me to use it but of course the mixer and selection panels don't work. Stuffed either way.

I'm feeling very let down by this decision not to support what is still a perfectly good product with the latest OSX upgrade, and I'm loathe to go and have to spend a decent whack of money on buying new hardware merely due to software support for it being dropped.

If I have to now replace my Firestudio, I'm really going to seriously be thinking about whether I feel like supporting the Presonus brand anymore, and what makes it worse is I've been recommending Presonus to so many of my clients over the past few years. Seeing "legacy" products having support dropped like this isn't a good look.

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there is another thread that brings in some light:

http://forumsarchive.presonus.com/posts/list/12259.page

bobtudor wrote:
I have some good news.
We experimented with the idea of an OS X Lion version of FS 2626 in R&D.
It is basically a branch of Universal Control 1.2 with a new Lion 1394 driver, and our other products removed from it.
It seems to work well as we are testing it internally.

Although we did not add any new features to the control panel, the existing software you are using with FS2626 will work again.
On OSX Lion.

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bemuzed
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I'm personally quite fine with not having new features or with continuing development - I understand they need to put most of their backing into their current products.
I just want my existing product to carry on functioning the same as before but with the new OS.
It's nice to know Presonus feels a responsibility to look after its existing customers (brand loyalty is after all a powerful thing) and if it plays out well I will hopefully feel a little more secure about supporting them in the future.

yena
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I owned two FS2626 with my friend, so I had to get one more for my home.

I bought one more FS2626 this Feb? March? some time around that.
after bought one more, I knew that presonus decided to discontinue the product this year.

as an owner, even though the driver works in Lion, discontinue supporting the product is inappropriate decision.

For example, automobile makers have to make and keep the part of mobile several years after discontinue.
Even its numbers (of year) are shows difference follow each nation's law.

One of user in this forum said about RME as a case.
Already discussed about driver support by some of user,
even the it's not so long as RME, IMO, Presonus has to support with driver developement at lest two or three years.

Furthermore, released driver (1.2) shows some bugs according to system's configuration as you can see both at this forum and support page.

I and most of users already know that support can't be forever.
But I want to speak out that Presonus's decision is not inappropriate at this moment.

Please consider it affirmative to support some more period.

thank you.

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foppishone
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MarkusHassold wrote:there is another thread that brings in some light:

http://forumsarchive.presonus.com/posts/list/12259.page

bobtudor wrote:
I have some good news.
We experimented with the idea of an OS X Lion version of FS 2626 in R&D.
It is basically a branch of Universal Control 1.2 with a new Lion 1394 driver, and our other products removed from it.
It seems to work well as we are testing it internally.

Although we did not add any new features to the control panel, the existing software you are using with FS2626 will work again.
On OSX Lion.


Thanks for the quote Markus - and thank you SO very much Presonus! I rely on my Firestudio for a LOT of work so your continued support is very appreciated!!

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Jason.Harris
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I also own several products from another manufacturer that are "Legacy" products. I run one of them on an XP machine that runs Service Pack 2 and will never be updated and never have new software installed, partly because I use this product with it. As a Presonus representative, I understand your desire to update your OS and also keep using your Legacy product with that new OS... However as a realist and as a fellow recording engineer I believe it is more important to talk straight about this issue, as the nature of technology and computers is going to constantly change and leave older devices, methods, hardware and operating systems behind. This is one of the byproducts of Moore's Law. As computers and operating systems change and as the rest of the world begins using computers in different ways, we will have to make hard choices (as users) with our recording systems...

A) Stick with a tried and true Computer/OS/DAW/Audio Interface system that we know works but may not have the newest widget or flashy thing attached to it.

B) Upgrade at every opportunity to the latest OS/Driver/Etc. and get those new widgets and flashy things, possibly at the risk of system stability but we stay on the edge of technology (and at times we must replace older and/or unsupported devices).


There is a happy medium to be had, where we take a measured approach and make sure to give developers, computer makers, OS's and such the time to level out and replace gear in small doses. This takes research, time, and sometimes money to do properly. If you're willing to put in the time and work associated with keeping up with the times, you can get the most for your music equipment dollar and save yourself downtime in the process. If you go off all willy-nilly and update every time your video card gets a new beta driver, you're bound to have trouble.

Gary (who works in Tech Support for Presonus, btw) and I have been running two project studios together for nearly 9 years now. I still own an XP machine that is running an M-Audio Audiophile I bought the year they came out (the machine was built in 2001 and although it has been upgraded with RAM and Hard Drives, still has the same install of XP and an Athalon first gen 1ghz processor!). This machine does its job and does it well, but never gets on the internet, still runs Ableton live 5, Reason 3, and Wavelab 4! If I tried to put Windows 7 on it, it would probably spit out a puff of smoke and that would be the end of that.

In summation, I would advise that before you purchase gear, update OS, update Drivers, update components in your PC, etc, do your research and weigh the benefits vs. the risks. Make an educated decision at every turn and take a measured approach, developing a stable and powerful system as you go. And most of all, once you've got a system that works for you, LEAVE IT ALONE!


Cheers,

Jason


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Ok, I've held off for a month but just thought I'd ask:

Any ETA yet for the Lion driver for the Firestudio 26x26??

I'm nearing a new project and rather than rolling back to snow leopard....I'm hoping that the driver will be released.

Last I remember was reading "shortly" about a month ago.
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>.<

bensrokosz
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Jason.Harris wrote:>.<


? Really?
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dysanfel
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How your company handles this situation will determine if I continue being a customer.
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dysanfel wrote:How your company handles this situation will determine if I continue being a customer.


I hope >.< stands for "the driver is talking a bit longer than we anticipated, but we know it is important to our customers so we are hoping to finish it soon"
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Please see my previous posts regarding the timeline for the release of this driver. We are working crazy hours trying to get it ready for you.

bensrokosz
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Maybe I missed some posts....I've been following the forums ever since Lion was released and I haven't seen any timeline spoken of, just "shortly", "soon", etc.
Like I said, I waited for over a month before bringing the issue up again, I feel as though I'm being patient....just looking for an update.
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Soon, shortly, as soon as its finished, etc.... All apply.

The fact is, No one has any idea of when they will be finished besides the folks who actually are tasked with coding the drivers/gui/etc. Any date, timeline, or other arbitrary numerical data I could give you would be a lie or half-truth at best. I've stated this many times, ad nauseum, concerning this and other drivers throughout this forum. Although I appreciate that everyone is ready for it to be finished, there is nothing that can be done to speed up the process. Waiting for an announcement from Presonus is the best any of us can hope for. I refuse to speculate or give a date for this or any other release. To do so would be a disservice to you and our other valued customers.

bensrokosz
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Jason.Harris wrote:Soon, shortly, as soon as its finished, etc.... All apply.

The fact is, No one has any idea of when they will be finished besides the folks who actually are tasked with coding the drivers/gui/etc. Any date, timeline, or other arbitrary numerical data I could give you would be a lie or half-truth at best. I've stated this many times, ad nauseum, concerning this and other drivers throughout this forum. Although I appreciate that everyone is ready for it to be finished, there is nothing that can be done to speed up the process. Waiting for an announcement from Presonus is the best any of us can hope for. I refuse to speculate or give a date for this or any other release. To do so would be a disservice to you and our other valued customers.


Ok Jason, I can live with that. Thanks for the update.

Sorry but >.< just seems like I'm being mocked.
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