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themuzic
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gezzyboy wrote:Holy hell! 2.0.4 is still buggy as hell,been working on a track all day,dance pop,loads of synths nexus,vanguard,albino,atmosphere etc .using some of the vengeance sound sets and presets,then the who,e fuckin track crashed,lost all the sound sets and a load of presets,had to reinstall the programme and then the sound sets and try various ways of loading up the project.The crash actually killed some files,which is abso fucking lutley not acceptable.Still feels like I'm playing Russian roulette with this programme and I am not feeling like its totally stable yet,this is FUCKInG CRUCIal ,I don't give a toss if I can transform automation,if the programme is not absolutely bullet-proof,there is no point in investing any time in it.I can't commit commercial time to this unless it is rock solid.crahes that corrupt data,even when copying external media to the project is enabled is completely unacceptable.


True, but be aware that not everyone is experiencing this and since we have no idea what kind of system you're running no one will even be able to venture a guess to help you. Unless of of course you just popped in here to vent, which is totally understandable.

Let us know if you want help.

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themuzic wrote:
gezzyboy wrote:Holy hell! 2.0.4 is still buggy as hell,been working on a track all day,dance pop,loads of synths nexus,vanguard,albino,atmosphere etc .using some of the vengeance sound sets and presets,then the who,e fuckin track crashed,lost all the sound sets and a load of presets,had to reinstall the programme and then the sound sets and try various ways of loading up the project.The crash actually killed some files,which is abso fucking lutley not acceptable.Still feels like I'm playing Russian roulette with this programme and I am not feeling like its totally stable yet,this is FUCKInG CRUCIal ,I don't give a toss if I can transform automation,if the programme is not absolutely bullet-proof,there is no point in investing any time in it.I can't commit commercial time to this unless it is rock solid.crahes that corrupt data,even when copying external media to the project is enabled is completely unacceptable.


True, but be aware that not everyone is experiencing this and since we have no idea what kind of system you're running no one will even be able to venture a guess to help you. Unless of of course you just popped in here to vent, which is totally understandable.

Let us know if you want help.


Cheers,agreed,the only reason I'm investing so much time in these forums is because I truly believe this programme has a chance of becoming an industry standard in a few years, I see all the potential that Logic had all those years ago and since emagic sold us out all those years ago,ther has been an enormous gap in the market for a decent PC DAW,but there are a few fundamentals that emagic got right,that Presonus needs to understand.Primarily that above all and fundamental to an audio sequencer is that Data must be preserved,this is essential and something I have also discovered in other programmer recentley,ie if your sequencer crashes,hell even if your studio burns down the song/project files and associated data need to be safe.Lots of crashes with DAW,s over the last few years seem to take out song data and instrument Data,not sure why but it's absolutely unacceptable.If your in a tight commercial situation with hours to spare,you need to know if for whatever reason your sequencer crashes all the recorded data and song information is intact,even if that means dumping the current computer an taking the project elsewhere,session musicians,vocalists,synth tweaks level settings,these can't be recreated And must be fundamental to the programme.

For your info I have a quad core i5 system based on an asus mother board with 4gb of ram (Running a 3gb switch ) on windows Xp pro SP3 with an internal RME digi 9652 PCIE audiocard which was custom built by Inta Audio,so I'm pretty sure it's not the hardware.
i will pay for a license when i'm satisfied it works properyl <- does not fly here
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gezzyboy wrote:
For your info I have a quad core i5 system based on an asus mother board with 4gb of ram (Running a 3gb switch ) on windows Xp pro SP3 with an internal RME digi 9652 PCIE audiocard which was custom built by Inta Audio,so I'm pretty sure it's not the hardware.


Ok, this explains alot. I have built several Studio One systems (both 1.6 and 2.0) and I can see you are having the same issues a few of my other XP users have had with Studio one and the 3gb switch.

Consistently, these users have had the exact same problem you're having when using the 3gb switch and lots of plugins. Yes, the switch allows you to use more plugins but Studio One does NOT do well with it. Yes, other DAWs have no major issues but Studio One and Samplitude really don't do well with the 3gb switch.

One guy solved this by sticking with XP and only having 3gb RAM, one moved to a 64 bit Mac and the last 2 moved to Windows 7. and yes, all issues went away.

Moving to a new OS is never easy and I can't guarantee moving to a Mac or Windows 7 will completely solve your issues (because I don't know your workflow) but getting off of XP will solve many of your issues based on how many VST Instruments you like to use.

Not making excuses just giving you one man's experience building home studios for clients. Your mileage may very.

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Hey Gezzyboy, I have to agree with Johnny here.

I totally fail to understand why people run the latest hardware, the latest software on an OS that is over ten years old and where the last service pack was released roughly four years ago. There are more reason to run on Win 7 then not.
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Motoko wrote:Hey Gezzyboy, I have to agree with Johnny here.

I totally fail to understand why people run the latest hardware, the latest software on an OS that is over ten years old and where the last service pack was released roughly four years ago. There are more reason to run on Win 7 then not.


The Reason Is because I need Legacy;I have tracks on my system dating back 15 years and I'm still running Logic 5.5.1 . I do lots of types of music sync for TV,Dance Tracks etc. You wouldn't believe how often I need to go back to an old project and get some parts up ,or pull a vocal off an old tune for a remix.Clients might want me to recreate something from years ago.It was a tough decision to build a new system (last year) with windows XP but I didn't want to end up running 2 computers with all the tracks spread across them,or a dual boot system.Win XP is still used by 85% of the world,I would expect Studio One to run well on this OS.
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Motoko wrote:Hey Gezzyboy, I have to agree with Johnny here.

I totally fail to understand why people run the latest hardware, the latest software on an OS that is over ten years old and where the last service pack was released roughly four years ago. There are more reason to run on Win 7 then not.


The Reason Is because I need Legacy;I have tracks on my system dating back 15 years and I'm still running Logic 5.5.1 . I do lots of types of music sync for TV,Dance Tracks etc. You wouldn't believe how often I need to go back to an old project and get some parts up ,or pull a vocal off an old tune for a remix.Clients might want me to recreate something from years ago.It was a tough decision to build a new system (last year) with windows XP but I didn't want to end up running 2 computers with all the tracks spread across them,or a dual boot system.Win XP is still used by 85% of the world,I would expect Studio One to run well on this OS.


I understand legacy, but why not keep a legacy system for that means. And get a system that is actually current in terms of hardware / OS etc. for the current software and work. And I don't expect S1 to keep running well on legacy OSs. Most current software doesn't run on Gx Macs anymore and seeing that XP is only used in 32.6%, while Windows 7 is used on 46.1% of the Windows machines I can see where the future is.

But that's just my opinion.
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gezzyboy wrote:I would expect Studio One to run well on this OS.


True, but you may be expecting too much of Windows XP to be able to handle the Load you asking it to. While Logic 5.5 may run good on it, it doesn't require near the power Studio One does given all it's higher features.

I had to face that as well when I had to give up my XP box for Windows 7. 3 gb switch or not, XP didn't know how to handle my newer plugs or DAW.

Look at the "Recommended Specs" requirements for most of the new updated DAWs. While they might say minimum XP the recommended is Windows 7.

Look, I know you need Logic. I built a second machine and kept the old one in case I needed it.

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buggy?

Unfortunately I have to admit. And CPU performance isn't as good as Cubase.

However why so many people use this product or You can see S1 is at the top of a list that which DAW will you switch to?

There's many or various reasons why so many people use this product.
There's many or various reasons why you can see this product at the top on their lists.

Yeah,

There's many things or reasons that make S1 is so unique and so original.


But the secret of that popularity is simple : Easy to use.i.e. Workflow.

Some people say the reason I use S1 is the audio quality. yeah i think S1's audio quality is very nice. But only audio quality can't be a reason enough to switch other DAW software. For example, just think about that you had samplitude for free or in low price. will you switch to the DAW simply because you think the audio quality is very nice?

If a DAW software had new technology that many ppl agree or think worth switching, that can happen. but No Daw software has such innovations.

Anyway, many and various people demand many and various demands on DAW softwares.

If you think the most important factor or the top priority is stability or compatibility with old stuff, then use Cubase or something that is outdated nowadays.

It's for you.

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well guys. i think most of our entitled customers don't have as much trouble as those without licenses. like seriously, gezzyboy, you have a modern intel quadcore, and an hdsp9652 and you come here complaining, without even a license of our program to show? and than all those plugins, are you sure they are working as intended by the manufacturers? and NLLM2011, same goes for you. nice that you like it, but you should really make sure that your system runs as intended by the manufacturers. these bugs might have been produced by someone else..

P.S. this thread is not for complaining or support. if you want to report bugs or get support (from users and sometimes devs), please DO GO TO THE STUDIO ONE TECHNICAL SUPPORT section of the forum. you need to have a license for that though.
and apart from that. you did not think the muting through to the end. for that to work as you want it, other stuff has to be in place or you need to overly simplify.

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gezzyboy wrote:.Still feels like I'm playing Russian roulette

you said it yourself
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eike wrote:
gezzyboy wrote:.Still feels like I'm playing Russian roulette

you said it yourself




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Eike is 100% right on this one, regarding licenses!! Now if only someone could respond to my recent post, which I dutifully posted in Studio One Technical Support (regarding problem I am having playing SFZ fonts in Presence), that would be even cooler
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That was a fun read and that sig had me literally laughing out loud.

i will pay for a license when i'm satisfied it works properyl <- does not fly here


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LMike wrote: That was a fun read and that sig had me literally laughing out loud.

i will pay for a license when i'm satisfied it works properyl <- does not fly here


More fun than a barrel of cross-eyed monkey's passing the chronic while slamming down gin and juice shots.

You know what? I couldn't find that to be funny if my life depended on it.

I was gonna say that's what demos are for - but it's just too far off.
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gezzyboy wrote:
Motoko wrote:Hey Gezzyboy, I have to agree with Johnny here.

I totally fail to understand why people run the latest hardware, the latest software on an OS that is over ten years old and where the last service pack was released roughly four years ago. There are more reason to run on Win 7 then not.


The Reason Is because I need Legacy;I have tracks on my system dating back 15 years and I'm still running Logic 5.5.1 . I do lots of types of music sync for TV,Dance Tracks etc. You wouldn't believe how often I need to go back to an old project and get some parts up ,or pull a vocal off an old tune for a remix.Clients might want me to recreate something from years ago.It was a tough decision to build a new system (last year) with windows XP but I didn't want to end up running 2 computers with all the tracks spread across them,or a dual bot system.Win XP is still used by 85% of the world,I would expect Studio One to run well on this OS.


I'm assuming Logic 5.5 runs on XP but not on Win7?

I'm pretty certain that Win7 has a feature builtin where you can run certain programs in XP mode. That would solve your problem completely if it works. Have you looked into this?

Even worst case scenario, if that didn't work... you could also consider running XP virtually on your Win7 machine. I believe their are various ways to do this. Would be worth looking up if there's a free way to do it.

I resisted upgraded to Win7 at first myself. I eventually folded when I realized my audio drivers were just not good enough under XP and I was getting inferior performance out of every DAW. I upgraded to Win7 and was amazed at how much more stable everything was. There's a good chance you'd see a performance boost as well. If you could confirm there's a way to run your old DAW on Win7, you'd be gold.
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