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Does anyone know if the Pro EQ in Studio One is a linear phase EQ or not?
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I'm pretty sure it's not.
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Kahlbert wrote:I'm pretty sure it's not.

correct. it is not.
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eike wrote:
Kahlbert wrote:I'm pretty sure it's not.

correct. it is not.


One thing worth adding to this. ProEQ is a very well designed EQ. Very flexible, responsive, great UI and great sound quality. The integrated spectrum analyzer makes it a fantastic tool.



There are lots of great 3rd party options for linear phase EQs:

Waves Linear Phase EQ http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=207
FabFliter Pro-Q http://www.fabfilter.com/products/pro-q.php
DMG Equality http://www.dmgaudio.com/index.php?_view=products.product.0
Ozone 4 http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/ozone/

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For a plugin that is part of a DAW it is definitely very good indeed.
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ksmason wrote:Does anyone know if the Pro EQ in Studio One is a linear phase EQ or not?


why is that even important?
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There's a pretty good explanation here:

http://theproaudiofiles.com/linear-phase-vs-minimum-phase-eq/
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it's kinda crazy how Izotope gives you a linear phase EQ with OZONE...but NOT with ALLOY.
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mrpicholas wrote:There's a pretty good explanation here:

http://theproaudiofiles.com/linear-phase-vs-minimum-phase-eq/


nice post.

i need to step up my EQ game, i see


i was thinking that PRO EQ was all i really needed...now i see the error in my ways.
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FyLe ForMatz wrote:


it's kinda crazy how Izotope gives you a linear phase EQ with OZONE...but NOT with ALLOY.


Not when you think about what the two were designed for.

Ozone is billed as a mastering suite. Generally linear phase EQs are somewhat more resource intensive, so using a single one in order to fix very specific problems in a mix is a more common use of them in mastering. Or...possibly on a mix bus.

Alloy is pitched as a mixing tool, so a non-linear phase EQ is more often used in this case, and the effects in Alloy are all designed to be less resource intensive in order to allow for more instances of the plug without dogging your system.

Generally I think "scalpel" when I think linear phase. It's a tool that I use to fix very specific problems, most often for correction rather than sound shaping. But as with anything...no hard and fast rules...use whatever you need to achieve what you envision

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I've found the proEQ a useful tool where I've not found any included plugs useful before.

A lot because of the presets, just finding out what an eq can do for you, I'm amazed at what it can do for an instrument in a mix.

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there is no better explanation than this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efKabAQQsPQ



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Gizzmo0815 wrote:[most often for correction rather than sound shaping


what are some common examples of correction vs. sound shaping?
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FyLe ForMatz wrote:
what are some common examples of correction vs. sound shaping?


I'd say that correction is removing bad frequencies like the boxiness on a drum or nasty overtones on an acustic guitar. Maybe more the later one, when you narrow the Q setting. For sound shaping I'd think about bottom end on a kick drum and the slap of the beater, the klick. Also like the finger freqs on a bass guitar. IOW whit the use of broader Q settings.

As the linear phase eq tend to be quite expencive, here are a few free one's http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2012/02/06/bpb-freeware-studio-best-free-linear-phase-eq-vstau-plugins/

would be cool if someone had the time to test these also to see how in phase they really are. I'm not saying they can compete with the big names, but certainly wort a try for the price of time
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Just keep in mind that linear phase EQs are not better, just different. They have their own downsides (pre-ringing mainly), and while usually touted as being "mastering" grade, it's surprising how few professional mastering engineers use linear phase EQs. Nice to have in the tool chest, but definitely not a replacement for minimum phase EQs.
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