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16.4.2 » Monitor Volume » Go to message
I've tried most of your suggestions at one point or another, but yesterday I did sound for a friend's band, all of whom are terrific musicians with lots of experience, and they had the same monitor issues, which makes me think that it's "me" at soundcheck, although I can't figure out what could possibly be wrong.

I do use the scene recall for my band, but we always check stuff like that regardless, so I don't think that's a factor.
I do like your idea of walking around with the iPad, so I can actually see/hear what they're doing, in fact, I've had everyone in my band download the app for their phones, though I haven't tested that yet to see if it will help. I've even used a decibel meter; seriously...

Our "soundcheck song" doesn't seem to be a solution. I've asked "how's the monitors" after they played it, they said "good" and I got on stage to find that no one, including me, can hear a thing. That's why I'm wondering if the solution, or at least a "workaround" might be to simply do soundcheck with them jacked up way louder than they think is necessary, because if they're not loud enough and I have to start screwing around with monitor volumes after we've technically begun the set, feedback breaks out everywhere...

Much easier to turn 'em down if it's too loud...? What do you think of that solution?
16.4.2 » "Settings" for electronic drum kit » Go to message
I just realized your actual question was about "presets". I just used a preset for the 4 signals we were breaking out to separate channels. Snare, Kick, Toms, Cymbals. I don't remember which ones exactly, but they're fairly unaltered and work really well.
16.4.2 » "Settings" for electronic drum kit » Go to message
We use a Roland TD20 with Zildjian Gen 16 cymbals; here's what I do (though I'm certainly no expert):

I separate out the Snare, Kick, and Toms, and run the cymbals on a separate channel since it's technically a different instrument. (I'd do the same if we were using the Roland head for the cymbals, except I'd separate out the HH as well). We just don't have another channel to dedicate to the HH, so I just make sure the head mix is "balanced" before playing. Your HH volume is more important than the cymbals in my opinion, if you're ever in doubt, because it can get really annoying to hear a HH too loud all night. A loud cymbal crash is gone fairly quickly.

Don't run any effects on the drums (from the drum head) at all, including reverb. If you want "something" do it from the board, as if it were a set of acoustics, however, if you pick good "patches" to begin with, I've found that Roland's engineers did better than I will ever do and I'm likely to just mess it up if I try to add effects beyond the basics like EQ or reverb. And: a sub is a must if you want them to sound natural.

Running a sub is a totally different forum topic, but we wouldn't play without ours.

I put all our drums and cymbals on a submix fader; it really makes it easy to adjust volume.
16.4.2 » Monitor Volume » Go to message
I have a recurrent problem and I'm sure it's at least partially operator error, but I still need to figure out a way to eliminate this issue: inevitably, whenever I'm doing sound for someone (my own band or someone else's) we start off at soundcheck with everyone happy with their monitor and within a song or two, "something" has happened, no one is happy, and yesterday, 2 people claimed they didn't actually have a monitor for the duration. (They didn't take a break so I couldn't fix it then).

In addition, if I try to boost their volume I start getting feedback all over the place, so I'm stuck with monitors that simply aren't loud enough and mics (mostly) that I can't boost any more without feedback.

Here's what "I" think is wrong:

a) when I ask "how's your monitor" they don't factor in that we're doing soundcheck in a quiet room with no crowd and no one else playing. Hearing "something" out of it isn't the equivalent of "it's at a proper volume". That has less to do with equipment and more to do with human error (mine and their's).

b) do most people crank up their monitor volume way more than they expect to need, for the simple reason that after they start playing, it's way easier to adjust down with one knob, than to have to start fiddling around with gain and everything else because it starts squealing when you start turning it up? Factor in about 30% or so more volume than you think will be necessary, in other words?

Thanks for the help in advance. I'm baffled.
 
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