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Can I use Euphonix MC MIX controller with STUDIO ONE ?
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I think you can use it in Mackie Control mode
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Yes, you can try Mackie Control mode but I believe Jonathon has already said they will not support the Euphonix directly, any time soon. So the Mackie mode is all we'll have.

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How works the Euphonix MC Control V1 or V2 in Mackie Mode in S1? How much functionality is lost in Mackie mode? And how works one MC Control plus two MC Mix in Mackie mode with S1? When supports S1 the Euphonix protocol? Gernerally, when will S1 support some more pro controller like the Euphonix. Dont understand me wrong, S1 is nice and solid but I need much more flexibility in controllability and I think thats a must! How long needs PreSonus to offer a solution?
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Frank Funk wrote:How works the Euphonix MC Control V1 or V2 in Mackie Mode in S1? How much functionality is lost in Mackie mode? And how works one MC Control plus two MC Mix in Mackie mode with S1? When supports S1 the Euphonix protocol? Gernerally, when will S1 support some more pro controller like the Euphonix. Dont understand me wrong, S1 is nice and solid but I need much more flexibility in controllability and I think thats a must! How long needs PreSonus to offer a solution?


I don't think there are plans to support this in the near future. So you may have a long wait.

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@themuzic

do you have some deeper informations about? Do you know the justification of PreSonus? My journey to "my" DAW is long and I want to arrive now to make music. S1 is a great solution. Solid and easy but I need extra a flexible controller solution. On this point S1 loose. I producer Reggae and Dub. Special Dub needs a bigger controller solution then faderport or other. I need a controller like a mixing desk. Not huge but I need. A controller like novation for example is a toy for my workflow. My Mackie controller C4 Pro dont works in S1 and PreSonus shows no activity to support them. Is my own solution the Mackie MCU Pro plus Extender? Or do you have an other idea for me? Is nobody out there they use a controller like a mixing desk? Not only for one channel stripe at time... I`m so wrong with my understanding of mix music? I know, time is changing but a DAW today is a powerful tool but you ( I ) can`t control them? I`m so helpless... Or is PreSonus to plan a solution like ipad SL Remote as DAW controller solution. Not the best for me but a huge step forward... Please PreSonus help. Is a discussion about possible? Jonathan you quest "why upgrade to Studio One Pro". Yes, Jonathan, my question comes back. WHY? Again, please help.
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The MCU Pro + Extender is a good route to take right now.

You can use the C4 with Studio One, using Control Link to map anything to the knobs like you would with any other hardware. Only downside would be that you don't get text feedback on the scribble strips from the parameters you are controlling. It also seems you might be able to do some interesting things using the C4 Commander software.

Supporting a control platform is no small task, especially when it comes to Eucon. And relatively so few people have this hardware, we simply can't make it a priority at the moment.
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@ Jonathan

First of all, thank you so much for your replay. Thats realy very nice to hear from you. But...
I have testetd a lot to use my C4 Pro with S1, before I wrote here in the board. Short answer: Nothing works.
I`m shure you know the C4 works not like a normal midi controller. It use the mackie protocol. Problem, I can`t connect the C4 and use the control link. This works definitly not! What I can do is the C4 to connect and install as a Mackie MCU or Extender. Then I can use 8 of 32 rotarys as pan knob. Thats it and thats not funny... What I`m doing wrong? Do you have tested your answer by yourself with a C4? And do you have ever used the command software? Thats a nightmare!!! I`m not a programmer. I want to use my DAW with a controller. Nothing else. I have wrote my questions in the past to the PreSonus technical support. The same answer like yours, but this not works. Where is my mistake? What you write is easy to understand...
An other question is about the future of PreSonus for the controller support. You wrote the Euphonix support is not planned in the next time. Thats a pity. I understand thats not doing by night to programm this support but which direction is PreSonus running? A ipad SL Remote as DAW controller solution? Thats a beginning...
Finally S1 is a top product but please the controller support is not realy a good situation. Whats the future?

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I don't have the C4 to test with, no. I believe you can use the C4 Commander software to make the knobs send MIDI CC's to Studio One, which would enable all of them to work with Control Link. The usability of Commander is an issue you'll have to take up with Mackie, and perhaps their support can help you set it up to do what you need (each knob send a separate MIDI CC to S1).

Do you have the MCU and extender, and if so, do they work well for you in S1?

As far as the future goes, we will improve controller support every chance we get, with priority based on available resources and user requests. Beyond this, I can't speak to future products we may or may not make, as you might expect.


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Hi Jonathan,

I dont use a Mackie MCU or Extender. Why? The C4 is (was) for my work the most flexible and best solution. The problem of the MCU or the Extender is, for a quick realtime usability, I have to push to much knobs or switch to much levels. I produce Dub music and for this I need a direct approach to the tracks. Like a real mixingdesk with some knobs more per channel. Then one knob per channel solution on the most popular controller is boring. Thats my problem... And now is my chance to use the C4. The commander software is no solution. I know, PreSonus is not interessted to integrade the C4 like the MCU or the Extender. The C4 Pro is canceled from Mackie. But a controller like your faderport is now answer. Sorry. I`m looking so much for a solution for me. Smart AV Tango? Euphonix MC Control or MC5? Is it not possible for PreSonus to create a true controller? A controller for engineers? A "channel-stripe" controller ? ? ?
I have heard about PreSonus thats a firm from musicians for musicians. Is nobody out there with the same controller problem? Is no controller manufacter out there with a relation to music or engineers? At the moment are only 2 controller ways possible on the marked. One: Cheap and to simple or Two: expensive, flexible but without a S1 support... Thats so sad!
Have PreSonus a good technician to build custom controllers? I need realy help. I want to be a user. Not a builder.

But, Jonathan, thanks again for your answer. Is it not time for PreSonus to change the situation?
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Frank Funk wrote:@themuzic

do you have some deeper informations about? Do you know the justification of PreSonus? My journey to "my" DAW is long and I want to arrive now to make music. S1 is a great solution. Solid and easy but I need extra a flexible controller solution. On this point S1 loose. I producer Reggae and Dub. Special Dub needs a bigger controller solution then faderport or other. I need a controller like a mixing desk. Not huge but I need. A controller like novation for example is a toy for my workflow. My Mackie controller C4 Pro dont works in S1 and PreSonus shows no activity to support them. Is my own solution the Mackie MCU Pro plus Extender? Or do you have an other idea for me? Is nobody out there they use a controller like a mixing desk? Not only for one channel stripe at time... I`m so wrong with my understanding of mix music? I know, time is changing but a DAW today is a powerful tool but you ( I ) can`t control them? I`m so helpless... Or is PreSonus to plan a solution like ipad SL Remote as DAW controller solution. Not the best for me but a huge step forward... Please PreSonus help. Is a discussion about possible? Jonathan you quest "why upgrade to Studio One Pro". Yes, Jonathan, my question comes back. WHY? Again, please help.


Glad Jonathon chimed in. I had no inside info. I was going on a post from Jonathon from another thread. Now, as far as the faderport goes, THAT I can speak to!! I love my faderport and could not run Studio One without it. I bought one new one and then a used one from Ebay, for my laptop setup.

As much as I would like more faders and knobs, I find the faderport is all I need and you can assign the fader or pan knob to any control or plugin using Control Link.

Studio One and a faderport is the ticket.

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I believe you, the faderport is a nice tool. But this is not the question. If I produce my music track by track and step by step, yes it`s possible, a solution like faderport, is enough. And yes, there are a lot controller out there with a lot knobs and faders and buttons. But, the most of them are more toys then pro controller. Again, I produce Dub music. Dub music can be constructed step by step and your faderport is enough and Dub music can be mixed in one shot. But this needs a solution per channel with more then one button or knob. You dont have enough time to switch menus again and again for the right configuration of the knob. Thats the problem. A mix like that is intuitive and direct. Spontaneous. Thats music. And thats my problem. One side cheap (to smal knobs or faders or not enough of all) or other side unsupported expensively controllers. What a DAW want S1 to be? Only a contruction DAW or a tool for musicians. I dont want to criticize the most of you and your work. Your way is your way and thats ok. But some people are working different and this people (like me) have no right to work active with music? I need a solution what is working without a look to my computer monitors. For example, the Behringer bcf or bcr are good tools. But I never knows whitch knob is doing what without a look to my monitors. Switch a level in S1 and the controller informations are other. A display per knob and fader (like C4 Pro) is helping so much.
I`m a little bit down. I find a great DAW like S1 Pro. Solid! But I have no rights to work "pro" (from my view)..? I agree that smal controllers are not working for me and I have to agree the big solutions are not supported for me.
Is that a solution?
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@Frank Funk I would suggest you do like Jonathan said and try the C4 with Studio One, using Control Link. I understand you feel like you need S1 to be gear towards your "PRO" needs and PreSonus is working on that so please be patient.
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I would be very interested in seeing how it works, or if it works, in MCU mode or even HUI mode with Studio One on the PC. I suspect that it might actually work.

I wish I had one to test.

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Oh, it`s easy to tell you how it works... It works definitely not. The C4 works only if I install it as a MCU or Extender of Mackie in S1 and then are working 8 of 32 encoder. This can change the balance. Nothing else. The control link dont works. It`s possible I do enything wrong but I dont no what. I`m searching now a longer time for a solution with the C4. I have no idea... Now, total frustrated, I have sold last days my C4. This controller is not longer supported by Mackie and S1 dont support it too. I understand, it`s not importand for PreSonus to support a suspended product like the C4. My biggest wish is now that PreSonus starts a Euphonix support for the MC Control V2 or PreSonus release a much more flexible controller on the base of the faderport. I dont know... I can`t produce or record some Dub sessions at the moment. Thats sad enough... I want to make music again...
 
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