Am I the only one that hates the "COMEDY" feel of Presonus' website?

bigcohoona wrote:

themuzic wrote:

Wow dude. You shocked me on this one bigcohoona.

Man, was it that bad, lol. I'll take er down. Should have had my coffee

If there is any doubt of my love and ardent affection for Studio One Check out my product links on my website, she's #1:
http://handiworksmusic.wordpress.com/links/

Never had any doubts man!! This whole thread is silly anyway. And I thought I worried about stupid stuff.

I can not believe I read this entire thread! What a waste of time!

In regard to my earlier comment to the user dlawrence in this thread, I feel the need to clarify a few things. Now when I look back at it, my comment seems to have been interpreted as a kind of sarcasm or insult. But that wasn't my intention at all.

I actually found his comments to widen the context for the discussion, introducing the perspectives of "first-world problems" etc. After some thinking about it, I found myself in agreement with dlawrence; his remarks reminded me of deeper values, such as that I had promised myself not to commit the error of trying to manage somebody else's business decisions (including marketing and web design).

Hence my full comment was: "Finally, somebody with a deeper understanding of these issues... Thanks for your input." I meant it in a positive way. However, English is not my first language (and I probably suck at expressing myself in English). In retrospect I can see how my formulation could have been interpreted as an insult, and for that I'm sorry.

Now I'm not sure if the people who in turn commented on my comment were just joking or being serious. Maybe that's on the negative side of having a lot of headroom for "humor": people tend to have different humor boundaries and so what's funny to some people might be upsetting to others.

Of course, I personally think that a general discussion forum dedicated to Studio One should be a place where all users feel welcome to express their thoughts and concerns about the product and their experience with it. In many "bad" forums I've come across during the years, the feeling newcomers usually get is that they first have to find a way to become "friends" with the most established members of that community. Sometimes that would mean a constant need to deal with such members in a manner of feeding their egos and adapting to somebody else's conception of taste and sensibility. I simply don't have enough time for that kind of silly socializing, and I hope that's not how this forum will end up in the future.

Renoise wrote:In many "bad" forums I've come across during the years, the feeling newcomers usually get is that they first have to find a way to become "friends" with the most established members of that community. Sometimes that would mean a constant need to deal with such members in a manner of feeding their egos and adapting to somebody else's conception of taste and sensibility.

Well that's something you don't have to worry about here. For myself, contrary to popular belief, I have no ego and hate everybody equally

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themuzic wrote:So what you're saying is that Pro Tools has a "Turd Polisher" plugin?

I believe a lot of amateur musicians think it does.

Consider the other Great Assumption of the recording world: that analog sounds better than digital. Every man and his singing dog has heard that one. So why aren't all these clients calling up studios and asking if they can be recorded onto tape instead of Pro Tools? It's because they also know how unforgiving tape is.

dlawrence wrote:

themuzic wrote:So what you're saying is that Pro Tools has a "Turd Polisher" plugin?

I believe a lot of amateur musicians think it does.

You are so correct. And this here is the problem. But you can't crush a legend, can ya?

dlawrence wrote:
Consider the other Great Assumption of the recording world: that analog sounds better than digital. Every man and his singing dog has heard that one. So why aren't all these clients calling up studios and asking if they can be recorded onto tape instead of Pro Tools? It's because they also know how unforgiving tape is.

It's not an assumption, it's the truth! Having come from the analog days myself, I think it's true to a great degree. Analog 2" tape, at max ips, will always sound better than any god created version of Pro Tools or any other DAW for that matter.

Analog will never have the editing capabilities but when you compare capturing an entire sound as opposed to just bits (and I don't care if its 96K) Digital will never be as complete a capture, physically, as analog is.

just my opinion.

themuzic wrote:It's not an assumption, it's the truth! Having come from the analog days myself, I think it's true to a great degree. Analog 2" tape, at max ips, will always sound better than any god created version of Pro Tools or any other DAW for that matter.

"Assumption" may not have been the best word for me to use. But you know what I'm saying, right?

themuzic wrote:

dlawrence wrote:

themuzic wrote:So what you're saying is that Pro Tools has a "Turd Polisher" plugin?

I believe a lot of amateur musicians think it does.

You are so correct. And this here is the problem. But you can't crush a legend, can ya?

dlawrence wrote:
Consider the other Great Assumption of the recording world: that analog sounds better than digital. Every man and his singing dog has heard that one. So why aren't all these clients calling up studios and asking if they can be recorded onto tape instead of Pro Tools? It's because they also know how unforgiving tape is.

It's not an assumption, it's the truth! Having come from the analog days myself, I think it's true to a great degree. Analog 2" tape, at max ips, will always sound better than any god created version of Pro Tools or any other DAW for that matter.

Analog will never have the editing capabilities but when you compare capturing an entire sound as opposed to just bits (and I don't care if its 96K) Digital will never be as complete a capture, physically, as analog is.

just my opinion.

Uh oh. We should probably take this discussion over to Gearslutz. That place is ripe for another "analog vs. digital" discussion/argument/food fight/hate fest.

Gizzmo0815 wrote:

Uh oh. We should probably take this discussion over to Gearslutz. That place is ripe for another "analog vs. digital" discussion/argument/food fight/hate fest.

that's a peculiar sort of comedy of its own

dgkenney wrote:

brent mosher wrote:

I happen to live in a very isolated community. The internet is the only way I have to find out about most things. I do not have access to ANY recording programs to examine their capabilities, nor even people to talk with in person about their experiences with them. Glad you found amusement in the only research method available to me. What would you suggest I should have done in my situation?

Move?

Just kidding Sorry if my response upset you but I did find it amusing. I have a strange sense of humor.

And since you asked, I would try some of the following..

Product trials/demos
Groove 3 product training videos
Youtube demos
Music related SIG boards
DAW forums

Dan

No harm, Dan

I did use DAW forums, boards and YouTube a lot in my research (like I said, Google was how I started, but the research went on for two weeks even though it didn't take long for me to start leaning heavily to S1. I really thought I was going to get Cubase when I started) (I'd never even heard of Studio One...) I didn't download any product trials (except Studio One) as I found the YT videos very informative on the different DAWs, and don't have all the time in the world to be trying every DAW out there. My needs aren't that complex, just a humble home studio. I've had S1 for a bit over a week now and it's going to do everything I need it to. I'll probably never even use the more advanced features like Beat Detection. Find the one page interface great as I'm not very computer/tech savvy and like to keep things simple.

See you around the forums...and...for what it's worth...I'll say again I have no problem with Presonus' website. I find Avid and Steinberg to be informative, but deathly boring...

brent mosher wrote:
I did use DAW forums, boards and YouTube a lot in my research (like I said, Google was how I started, but the research went on for two weeks even though it didn't take long for me to start leaning heavily to S1. I really thought I was going to get Cubase when I started) (I'd never even heard of Studio One...) I didn't download any product trials (except Studio One) as I found the YT videos very informative on the different DAWs, and don't have all the time in the world to be trying every DAW out there. My needs aren't that complex, just a humble home studio. I've had S1 for a bit over a week now and it's going to do everything I need it to. I'll probably never even use the more advanced features like Beat Detection. Find the one page interface great as I'm not very computer/tech savvy and like to keep things simple.

See you around the forums...and...for what it's worth...I'll say again I have no problem with Presonus' website. I find Avid and Steinberg to be informative, but deathly boring...

Glad you are aboard. Welcome to the S! "family"

Dan

Daaaaaan, brent keeps touching me...!

Welcome indeed! You made a great choice. Enjoy!

kell

This has been an interesting thread to follow. I'm an employee, so my opinion may not matter that much, but I'll provide it in case it holds some value here.

Since I discovered Presonus and began researching the company on my way to getting my first interview, one of the things that pulled me in was that this is a company created and run By Musicians, For Musicians. Not only that, but Presonus wasn't (isn't) afraid to be cool and fun and have a good time while doing business.

Just my 2 cents, but I love that we have our own identity and way of doing things

Plus, our gear is specifically useful in case of zombie apocalypses... Who else can claim that?

Cheers,

Jason

Jason.Harris wrote:This has been an interesting thread to follow. I'm an employee, so my opinion may not matter that much, but I'll provide it in case it holds some value here.

Since I discovered Presonus and began researching the company on my way to getting my first interview, one of the things that pulled me in was that this is a company created and run By Musicians, For Musicians. Not only that, but Presonus wasn't (isn't) afraid to be cool and fun and have a good time while doing business.

Just my 2 cents, but I love that we have our own identity and way of doing things Plus, our gear is specifically useful in case of zombie apocalypses... Who else can claim that?

Cheers,

Jason

I'm all for Gumbo, Avery Island, and EuCon

Thanks Jason.

Jason.Harris wrote:This has been an interesting thread to follow. I'm an employee, so my opinion may not matter that much, but I'll provide it in case it holds some value here.

Since I discovered Presonus and began researching the company on my way to getting my first interview, one of the things that pulled me in was that this is a company created and run By Musicians, For Musicians. Not only that, but Presonus wasn't (isn't) afraid to be cool and fun and have a good time while doing business.

Just my 2 cents, but I love that we have our own identity and way of doing things Plus, our gear is specifically useful in case of zombie apocalypses... Who else can claim that?

Cheers,

Jason