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blaskow
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Does anyone know if Presonus is working on a 32ch studio live to be released any time in the near future??? I own two 16ch SL consoles and just picked up two more 24ch SL consoles yesterday. A 32ch would give the aux & eq features of the 24 console while still letting me record 32+ channels via FireWire like my 16's do... I would buy two 32's in a heart beat if they became available soon! They would fit my application perfectly.
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It would be awesome but Presonus has better security controls than the guys in Area 51 (it exists...admit it). If there is even a MKII of the SL16 in potential development there's no data available on it.

I hope they are. I'd buy it. Especially if they gave it more busses for routing. I can get by with four but eight would be ideal for nearly any situation.
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I used to work around the corner from Y in N Tunnel and G Tunnel but thats a different story..

The Dice 2 FireWire Chipset is already Maxxed out.. Dont think you gonna be able to go much past 40 some channels as long as PreSonus uses Dice stuff...

There used to be a thread on the old forum about Dice 2 limitations.. I just searched for it but couldnt find it....

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My speculation;

With their software commitment, the next logical product will be control surfaces for Studio One. Motorised faders, midi etc. They already have history with faderport. I predict this will be an entirly new product instead of a 1642 mkII. The 1642 and 2442 still have a lot of life span (sales) left in them before it worth putting money into launching the mkII. We may even see mics and monitors to complement the software and interfaces first.

In fact i reckon a smaller format desk say 8 ch will be launched with new chip then the mkII 1642 and 2442 will be out with a option to go motorised fader.

Hmm who knows, wait and see. There will always be new advancements but i think PreSonus will continue to amaze us with fabulous product at a great price.
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I know I'm in a minority here, but I'd like to see them make a version that's more Studio than Live. The new Allen & Heath GS-R24 is pretty close to what I want, and I like that all the guts are analog, but that makes it rather pricey and limits the extent of on-board signal processing. I particularly like that the I/O is modular so you're not restricted to only using it in conjunction with a computer. I only wish there was space for two I/O modules so I could use either analog or digital inputs without changing cards.

I don't now what Bob Tudor is doing at/for PreSonus but I'd love to see him resurrect the Mackie d8b concepts in a new mixer while he's there. I'll bet he would (or they'd let him) if they could find about 10,000 more like me.

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If you put together 2 16.4.2 it is a 32.4.2, I have that but a 32.8.2 with 14 aux is my dream, come on my friends, just do it.
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Hi
i would like a hardware universal expansion for both products, 16.4.2 and 24.4.2 via firewire (Daisy-Chain) 8 mic/line inputs preamplifiers,4 aux, maybe 2 or 4 buses, and 2 more fx.
Simple, economical and so I have no need to invest in another console as well.


i have 16.4.2, but i need 24 mic/line, i buy the expansion.
i have 24.4.2, but i need 32 mic/line, i buy the expansion. <----

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http://www.allprosound.com/catalog/productdetails~fprodid~12133.htm

It's availible already ))
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Hi ratz and welcome to the forums.

What you're linking is not a new 32 channel mixer. It's two of the current SL16 units. We've been able to do that since the first models rolled out. Sorry to burst the bubble.

I wish this were available or even leaked now too. Just in time for christmas. Or my birthday.

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I expect motorized faders AND pots. if Gallien Krueger can make a bass amp with motorized pots, why manufacturers only insist in having only motorized faders?

Couldn't something be done using SHARK chipsets? Nowdays they go on almost every stuff, from multi effects pedals to DSP cards.
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32 channels with the capabilities of the 24.4.2.

Plus:

Sidechain EQ (preferably two bands) on the comps.

At least 14 auxes (7 stereo IEM mixes).

At least 8 groups.

At least 4 effects.

Recallable everything would be nice.

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MR4Y wrote:I expect motorized faders AND pots. if Gallien Krueger can make a bass amp with motorized pots, why manufacturers only insist in having only motorized faders?


Cost. It's not that the manufacturers insist on not motorizing pots (or in the case of PreSonus, not fader either) it's that there aren't enough customers like you who are willing to fork over the dollars. And really, ARE you? - How much would you pay for that feature? These are mechanical parts, not just the outcome from head-scratching programmers. They have to be really high quality in order to last since people often keep mixing consoles in service for 15-20 years.

Putting moving faders and pots on a StudioLive could easily double the cost over the counter if they did it right. And if they did it wrong (and cheap) there would be an instant burst of excitement followed by reports of failure and time out of service because those parts aren't built as user-serviceable modules (another high cost design).

So if you want all that stuff, go buy a $30,000 console. They're out there. But if you can only justify owning a $3,000 console, set your sights a lower.
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I gotta agree with Mike on this. Motorized controls would be nice but they aren't anything but a nice gadget on a StudioLive.

The knobs have absolutely no need to be motorized as they are only encoders (excluding gains and aux outs which I think could much more reasonably be modified to encoders).

And Presonus has created an excellent workaround for the moving faders with the locate capability. I've not needed anything more when running 2 Studiolive 16's together. I don't see that it's necessary for this one either.

I think we need to concentrate on the I/O and greater capability of the Fat Channel and Effects rather than things that will make this thing as expensive as a Yammie M7 (which I personally hate using).

The focus here, In my opinion should be mostly on sound quality and a little on workflow. Let's get the innards sounding nice and make them reliable (external/backup power supply anyone?) increase the I/O capabilities (CAT5, ADAT, AES/EBU, whatever works) increase the busses and auxes (14 with the ability to be mono or stereo would be outstanding). Turn the Fat Channel into the morbidly obese channel (give it every possible thing). Increase the effects to four and add in the ability to drop VST on each channel or group without haveing to run through a separate computer and software.

Just thoughts. Discuss...
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I think Presonus should try to specifically go after features which lead large demographics to buy the 'next class up' of pro consoles like the LS9, SI Compact and etc instead.

Personally, I see those as the following:

1) Four FX Processors. Most of the those consoles have four FX processors and that really enables them to run complex FX mixes.

2) Recallable headamps and encoders instead of pots on everything for full recall are a big deal for more mobile professionals and many others. Its often the first thing anyone would say when they were asked, "well what would be better about a ___insert more expensive console here___"

3) Cue style scene changes and controls, as well as mute groups will make the SL vastly more appealing to the theatre and touring markets.

Doesn't really fit in the list above, but how about some kind of speaker processing? Its just a thought. It occurred to me that Presonus could try to eat into the DBX driverack market with an integrated product. Maybe just computer controlled, not in console, like the new LAKE Processor card for Yamaha' s. Except, integrated and cheaper of course!

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thums up right back at ya there samuel.

Good ideas. Especially the tuning piece. I'd love to have everything in the mixer and just run what I need to FOH.
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My advice and suggestions should never be considered advice or suggestions. These are mostly insane ramblings of a poor aircraft mechanic who can, strangely enough, still hear.

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