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Using a dedicated guitar preamp with a Firepod
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10on6
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Hi. I'm running Studio One Pro on a PowerPC G5 using a Firepod as my interface. Miking an amp is not a viable option for me because of space restraints and I don't want to annoy my neighbors. I've used plug-ins with varying degrees of success but they tend to add an unpleasant edge to my Tele's tone (a little too harsh for my ear). Recording DI through the Firepod's instrument input gives me a clear, well defined sound but it has a dry, lifeless, sterile quality that requires too much processing to warm up. So I'm considering using a guitar preamp for recording that I could connect directly to one of the Line Inputs on the Firepod. I'm not looking for anything like the extreme distortion used in heavy metal. I would just like to be able to get a warmer, fatter, ballsier tone than possible through recording DI. Ideally, a sound as close as possible to playing through an old tube amp with a little creamy distortion when needed. Anyone out there had any success with a setup similar to what I'm describing?
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There are many options when it comes to hardware ampsims. I've gotten tones I like from Line 6, Roland and Digitech units.
That being said, what constitutes good tone is HIGHLY subjective. You're best bet is to get to Guitar Center and try 'em all.

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10on6
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Thanks for the recommendations.
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This could be a cheap solution for the first part if it's tube you want on a line in : ART Tube MP but no amp sim
For a total solution Line 6 HD 300 is nice but tube simulator and not cheap.
This I like : Hughes&Kettner Tubeman II but not cheap.
Look it up and see if these could do the job.
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10on6
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Yes, it is tube on a line in that I'm looking for (and keeping it within the budget is a consideration). Will check out your recommendations as well as the ones from cristofe. Thanks guys. Really appreciate the input.
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Klypeman's suggestion of an ART Tube MP is a good one. You can find them used for cheap on eBay.
By itself it probably won't get you where you want to be but combined with software ampsims and
other plugins it might get you there......it's certainly the most cost effective option.

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10on6
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Thanks. I've been researching the various ART models. As you say, they are certainly affordable.
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HP 6005 Pro AMD Athalon X2 B24 3.0Ghz Processor, 4GB RAM Win8 Pro
HP Compaq NC6320 Laptop Intel Core2Duo 2.0Ghz Processor 3GB RAM Win7 Ult
Dell Latitude E4310 Laptop Intel i5 2.67Ghz Processor 4GB RAM Win7 Pro x32

Audio Interfaces: Terratec EWS88MT PCI (2), Audiobox 1818VSL USB & FP10 Firewire, Steinberg MI4 USB, Line 6 Toneport GX & PodXT, Roland GS-10, NI Rig Kontrol 3

Monitors: Yamaha HS50M's

DAWS/VST Hosts: S1 Professional, Plogue Bidule, Xlutop Chainer, Sieb VSTHost & Savihost

Hardware Synthesizers: Roland SH-32 & XV-3080 RedSound Darkstar XP2, Novation X-Station, Yamaha AN200, M-Audio Venom

Hardware Controllers: JL Cooper CS-10 Control Surface, Yamaha EZ-EG, Dillion Les Paul style acoustic electric guitar with Roland GK-3 pickup and GI-20 converter.

The Rest: Guitars, Amps, Stompboxes, Mics, Outboard Gear, VST plugins...too much to list!
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