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RobbaYaga
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I'm very new to digital recording, so any helpful advice is welcome.

I'm using a Samsung Series 7 Gamer PC running Windows 7 with Studio One 2.6 Professional with an Audiobox 1818VSL plugged in to the USB 2.0 slot and routing sound though an HP4 using either moderate quality, noise reducing headphones or small room monitors. I'm trying to record a live drum kit and I'm using a Sennheiser e602 for the kick, a Shure SM57 for the snare and a set of Audix Fusion mics for the rack tom, floor tom and overheads (2). There is also an inexpensive condenser mic (forgot the brand, but very decent sound quality) that's being used a room mic. This uses 7 of the 8 channels I have available and the other channel is used for the guitar player to play along to help the drummer know where he is in the song. Because sound proofing is not great, the guitar is run clean and direct into the 8th channel to avoid the room mic picking up unwanted noise.

Problem #1: In order to eliminate delay issues when recording, I switch the main outs off in Studio One and use Audiobox VSL for monitoring. I then drag and drop a guitar effect onto the guitar channel from the VSL FX list and ... nothing changes. Doesn't matter which effect I use or any configuration that I can find. Any thoughts on why my VSL is not putting an effect on the guitar that can be heard through the monitoring system?

Problem #2: Low End Distortion continues to be a reoccurring problem. I set all recording levels with the Audiobox 1818 low (usually around -18dB though I've seen some videos where they suggest even lower) and there is nothing even close to clipping from any of the drum hits. We record one song and everything seems to be working out well. Record a different song and even though the levels in Studio One do not appear to have changed, there is significant distortion on some of the kick drum hits (again, nothing even remotely close to clipping shows up in the Studio One displays). Record a third song and some kick hits distort and others do not. Now, I can reproduce the effect even in the clean recording by simply moving the kick fader up in Studio One even a small amount and the distortion suddenly appears. I am baffled as to what the hell is going on since the Studio One meters never show any clipping at all.

The room mic does not reveal this problem, only the kick channel. I've tried also tried an Audix D6 and a Shure Beta52 and the problem was the same. (Actually worse, the D6 and Beta52 also made the kick sound like one of those red, rubber balls bouncing on a gym floor.) Changing mic cables has not improved the situation.

As an ancillary to the above, I cannot easily get an audible, clean bass guitar sound when running direct (P-bass, passive pick-ups). it's either very quiet or at least a bit fuzzy even when I'm certain I'm not over-driving with the bass volume controls.

Problem #3: When recording at these low dB levels, its not always easy to get an appropriate volume of the raw tracks out of the headphones or monitors. Is this simply a need for better playback equipment?

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RobbaYaga
wwFUN
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This is a guess, but it sounds like a routing issue.
Monitor signal is coming out pre Insert ?

For me, I use Asio4all and my buffer to 128 and just monitor with monitors straight out of the interface.

If you can, eliminate everything but the interface.
RobbaYaga
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Thanks for the reply. I'll play around with this and report back. I assume this is just a possible solution to problem #1 and not the others?

Thanks,
RY
wwFUN
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Yes. In my mind you need to strip it down to just the interface and it's monitor outputs and go from there.
As far as the kick drum anomalies - you might try some test recordings with the kick mic plugged into a different input. Use the same mics.
It's possible that there's a problem with a channel.
 
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