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shanabit
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Where is some good info on these? What they mean? How to apply it?
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I suggest you start maybe by reading this thread on K System which I started in the Tips and Tricks section.

It is a bit full on but hopefully explains the whole concept a bit more so:

http://forumsarchive.presonus.com/posts/list/42222.page

It is a great concept. It relies on the approach of getting back to VU metering in a nutshell and keeping an eye and keeping consistent rms levels of all our signals starting on tracks, buses and the final stereo master. Peak metering is also important but they both need to be used rather than just one alone as tends to happen with peak metering in a lot of modern DAW's
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thank ya kind sir, much appreciated
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Also I strongly suggest http://www.digido.com/ (the guy that invented the K-system) and http://productionadvice.co.uk/ (lots of information about all kinds of topics).
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Kahlbert wrote:Also I strongly suggest http://www.digido.com/ (the guy that invented the K-system) and http://productionadvice.co.uk/ (lots of information about all kinds of topics).


The Daft Punk CD vs. Vinyl comparison was quite interesting. And of course it was a hit - it's a four chord song! It's got those magical four chords. What is also very interesting is that in 1993 that a CD on a good system would blow away a vinyl copy in an A-B comparison. They had better dynamic range and better frequency response. Then something happened. The dot com bubble burst and people's listening habits changed. The days of the decent home system for the middle class were over. Digital downloads and earbuds or car systems are the name of the game now. Also analog gear tends to color sound more than digital gear.

On the CD version of this album, my guess is that the producers simply took the version intended for digital download and burned it to CD. This particular album could have been produced with an eq curve to match the vinyl. But which is more true to the performance? We don't know.

Vinyl can't reproduce the deep synth bass without jumping the needle out of the track. I've got shit that goes down to 31 Hz fundamental, which is why I double it with an oscillator an octave higher for people who don't have a sub.

Bottom line in my own inexperienced opinion is when mixing leave yourself plenty of room to work so you can get your mix sounding the best it can sound before mastering, so that when you're mastering all you have to do is maybe add this invisible sheen to the finished product and get the level up so that it's taking advantage of the full dynamic range. But don't squash the hell out of it. I really don't think this is rocket science.
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Julia B wrote:Vinyl can't reproduce the deep synth bass without jumping the needle out of the track.


Do not click here. No matter how much you may want to, you must not do it. Unless you have $20,000 laying around burning a hole in your pocket. You were warned!

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Bub wrote:
Julia B wrote:Vinyl can't reproduce the deep synth bass without jumping the needle out of the track.


Do not click here. No matter how much you may want to, you must not do it. Unless you have $20,000 laying around burning a hole in your pocket. You were warned!




O.M.G.... That is awesome! ... and since i don't need to play 78's it will only cost me $15,000!

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Don't forget LUFS, going to be more prevalant than the K-System I think.
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