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Mac and PC sharing files witha LaCie Rugged 500gb OMG it's the end of the world!
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rickhebert
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Sorry I couldn't resist! Call me cooyon

Anyway, I wanted to share this tidbit of info,

I will be using my Macbook Pro for recording sessions so I figured that best place for my laCie 500gb is installed for the Mac file system.

I used the Install Assistant that popped up when I plugged it in and it gave me two options;

1) Format for Mac (Recommended)
2) Format for use with Mac and Windows (Some limitations)

Well heck I couldn't resist ignoring the recommendations...

Anyway, Interesting that the drive was partitioned for 462gb Mac and 32gb Windows.

Also a folder was placed on my Mac desktop that appears when I plug in the drive called "EXCHANGE" and what it does is opens a folder into the 32gb partition that I can drop files and create folders into.

Then when I plug the LaCie into my PC voila! there are the files I placed there in a new folder I created on my Mac... with one caveat...
The Mac likes to use it's USB2 port and the PC likes to use its Firewire!

Luckily the LaCie 500gb Rugged has both so it's only the most minor of inconveniences to keep two types of connectors around.


So, on an average, how many gb will a 4 hour show recording 16 tracks consume at a sample rate of 48khz?

I hope this helps someone!!

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boeckel
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Hello,

From my experience, I would say :
approx 500MB /hour/track
So , for your 16 tracks /4 hours : 32 GB

But it is better to have 64 GB minimum instead.
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Might just point out if you use capture and "arm all record", you will be tracking the main outs as well. So 18 tracks.

The above calcs are based on the StudioLives bit depth of 24.
The option of changing the sample rate down from 48 kHz to 44.1 kHz will use 454MB per track per hour instead of 494MB.

So 18 tracks at 44.1 = 7GB 1007MB per hour (4 hours = 31GB 0959MB)
Or 18 tracks at 48.0 = 8GB 0706MB per hour (4 hours = 34GB 0779MB)

CD is of course 16 bit depth 44.1 kHz sample rate.

If you're wanting to sync your recording up to video of the event, 48 kHz is the way to go.
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rickhebert
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Thanks for the replies.

That info told me what I needed to know. I think my above scenario will work well for me, and I will have no problems working between my two different environments.
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install bootcamp drivers to your mac so it can use the windows NTFS file system, format the drive to 500gb NTFS then it will work both ways

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or install the bootcamp windows drivers so the windows pc can read the mac journaled file system

either way will work

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rickhebert
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Hey PhilG

So, let me ask, if I install bootcamp on the Mac, but lets say I don't want to run WinXP on the Mac, then after bootcamp is installed the Mac will be able to read NTFS?

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There are also stand alone drivers to enable macs to read NTFS formatted drives. Such as Macfuse or tuxera's NTFS-3G. An option instead of installing all (or parts of) Bootcamp. There are also drivers that enable Windows PC's to read MAC OS extended formatted drives.

I partitioned and formatted a 1tb drive:

500gig Mac os extended (journaled) as a backup clone of my internal.
500gig NTFS for my itunes library.

with the NTFS driver on my mac, it can read the itunes. If I take my itunes library to play on a friends WinPC, it's in the native format and ready to play. Avoids having to download drivers on every WinPC i plug into.
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QSC HPR 122i(x2), 153i(x2), 181i(x2)

Macbook Pro early 2009 15.4"
http://www.everymac.com/systems/appl...ody-specs.html
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